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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Dec 3, 2024 12:19:18 GMT -5
You're positioning this as if this is some kind of 34 year old coming of Justin Verlander. This is a meh signing for more than they probably needed to pay him. No , your interpretation of what I type is once again WAY off mark. NOWHERE did I say he's among the best pitchers in the game. I'm simply saying his past , injury history and his ERA's have a LOT to do with the elbow which he finally had TJ on , and when he came back he changed his repertoire and looked like a top end of a rotation type guy and not a bottom . Was it a hot streak or is this where he now is as a pitcher , it's a gamble but how many pitchers have there been lately that make changed late in a career and have become different pitchers. Look at Seth Lugo , hell 5-6 years ago his arm was said to be ready to fall off he had so many issues but would continue to pitch through them and at age 35 !!! He almost won a Cy Young . You literally said "top of the rotation" lol Yeah, Seth Lugo, but you didn't like someone else's Tyler Chatwood comparison. Of course. |
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Post by TheChico on Dec 3, 2024 12:26:00 GMT -5
I would love to move Taillon, he is highly likely going to regress next season and 2024 was a outliner but I just think every other team feels the same way about him and just not interested and kind of stuck. I don't think many expect the guy to post up an ERA barely over 3 again , but he's always been thought of as a solid starting pitcher in the game . Why some people are expecting a 5+ ERA from a guy who just put up a 3.27 and has a career 3.89 and has never had an ERA over 5 is a little puzzling to me. What is wrong with a high 3's ERA ? I don't think he is a 5+ ERA guy, but not confident he is a Sub 4 ERA guy either. He benefited big time at Wrigley conditions last year and if those conditions go away next season he could be more the 4.58 ERA that he put on the road last season which is underwhelming. |
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Post by batman66 on Dec 3, 2024 12:35:22 GMT -5
No , your interpretation of what I type is once again WAY off mark. NOWHERE did I say he's among the best pitchers in the game. I'm simply saying his past , injury history and his ERA's have a LOT to do with the elbow which he finally had TJ on , and when he came back he changed his repertoire and looked like a top end of a rotation type guy and not a bottom . Was it a hot streak or is this where he now is as a pitcher , it's a gamble but how many pitchers have there been lately that make changed late in a career and have become different pitchers. Look at Seth Lugo , hell 5-6 years ago his arm was said to be ready to fall off he had so many issues but would continue to pitch through them and at age 35 !!! He almost won a Cy Young . You literally said "top of the rotation" lol Yeah, Seth Lugo, but you didn't like someone else's Tyler Chatwood comparison. Of course. No , I said top end of the rotation , possibly a poor choice of words by me, when I say that at mean top 3 not bottom end . He pitched like a 1-2-3 not a 4-5 Chatwood is kind of a poor comp because his issue ALWAYS was throwing strikes , not an injury history. My point in using Lugo , he's an older pitcher who just had his best season at age 35 and who's battles arm problems, seems like a better example to me , but hey . I'm funny that way. |
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Post by bryzzobrist on Dec 3, 2024 12:54:51 GMT -5
2026 is potentially our last season w/ Shota. Boooo. He'll opt out if he gives us another strong season. The Cubs have an option to pick up his fifth year, if they do that it voids his opt out. Excellent news, Smithers
And nice contract structure there, Jed.
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Post by trav768 on Dec 3, 2024 13:44:31 GMT -5
I don't think many expect the guy to post up an ERA barely over 3 again , but he's always been thought of as a solid starting pitcher in the game . Why some people are expecting a 5+ ERA from a guy who just put up a 3.27 and has a career 3.89 and has never had an ERA over 5 is a little puzzling to me. What is wrong with a high 3's ERA ? I don't think he is a 5+ ERA guy, but not confident he is a Sub 4 ERA guy either. He benefited big time at Wrigley conditions last year and if those conditions go away next season he could be more the 4.58 ERA that he put on the road last season which is underwhelming. Chico, I already talked to mother nature. wind is gonna blow out when Cubs are up. wind is gonna blow in when they on defense. sun will shine bright when opponents are on defense. lol |
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Post by kfidd on Dec 3, 2024 13:53:54 GMT -5
I don't think he is a 5+ ERA guy, but not confident he is a Sub 4 ERA guy either. He benefited big time at Wrigley conditions last year and if those conditions go away next season he could be more the 4.58 ERA that he put on the road last season which is underwhelming. Chico, I already talked to mother nature. wind is gonna blow out when Cubs are up. wind is gonna blow in when they on defense. sun will shine bright when opponents are on defense. lol Truly home field advantage. |
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Post by rvn11 on Dec 3, 2024 14:12:51 GMT -5
I don't think he is a 5+ ERA guy, but not confident he is a Sub 4 ERA guy either. He benefited big time at Wrigley conditions last year and if those conditions go away next season he could be more the 4.58 ERA that he put on the road last season which is underwhelming. Chico, I already talked to mother nature. wind is gonna blow out when Cubs are up. wind is gonna blow in when they on defense. sun will shine bright when opponents are on defense. lol Bring back the Metrodome!! |
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Post by TheChico on Dec 3, 2024 14:36:08 GMT -5
I don't think he is a 5+ ERA guy, but not confident he is a Sub 4 ERA guy either. He benefited big time at Wrigley conditions last year and if those conditions go away next season he could be more the 4.58 ERA that he put on the road last season which is underwhelming. Chico, I already talked to mother nature. wind is gonna blow out when Cubs are up. wind is gonna blow in when they on defense. sun will shine bright when opponents are on defense. lol TRAV768 WILL BE THE 2025 MVP |
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Post by TheChico on Dec 3, 2024 14:37:19 GMT -5
Chico, I already talked to mother nature. wind is gonna blow out when Cubs are up. wind is gonna blow in when they on defense. sun will shine bright when opponents are on defense. lol Truly home field advantage. Somehow the Cubs cannot take advantage of this situation and have a losing record at home Because? THAT IS BASEBALL! |
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Post by NeverOnaSunday on Dec 3, 2024 15:04:50 GMT -5
Truly home field advantage. Somehow the Cubs cannot take advantage of this situation and have a losing record at home Because? THAT IS BASEBALL! The Cubs were 44-37 at home (3.08 = #1 NL) With 12 Blown Saves. |
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Post by TheChico on Dec 3, 2024 15:08:11 GMT -5
Somehow the Cubs cannot take advantage of this situation and have a losing record at home Because? THAT IS BASEBALL! The Cubs were 44-37 at home (3.08 = #1 NL) With 12 Blown Saves. It was a joke =) |
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Post by bryzzobrist on Dec 3, 2024 15:35:55 GMT -5
Tanner Scott
Kirby Yates
Kenley Jansen
Blake Treinen
To name a few.
There's some guys out there that we need to pounce on before they're taken off the board.
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Post by trav768 on Dec 3, 2024 15:49:34 GMT -5
Chico, I already talked to mother nature. wind is gonna blow out when Cubs are up. wind is gonna blow in when they on defense. sun will shine bright when opponents are on defense. lol TRAV768 WILL BE THE 2025 MVP lol thank you! thank you! thank you! I truly did all I could ( starts to cry a bit) It was a long negations with mother nature, but we hammered it out and struck a deal. thank you mother nature. ( cries a bit more) you're welcome Cubs, Chicago, and Cubs fans. walks off stage with my trophy, balling like a baby. lol |
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Post by batman66 on Dec 3, 2024 16:24:20 GMT -5
TRAV768 WILL BE THE 2025 MVP lol thank you! thank you! thank you! I truly did all I could ( starts to cry a bit) It was a long negations with mother nature, but we hammered it out and struck a deal. thank you mother nature. ( cries a bit more) you're welcome Cubs, Chicago, and Cubs fans. walks off stage with my trophy, balling like a baby. lol That shit doesnt work. Jed tried that last year begging and pleading to Mother nature that how can he get all his players to perform above expectations so they can make the playoffs when shes blowing the wind in so much. But thanks for trying. |
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Post by trav768 on Dec 3, 2024 17:24:05 GMT -5
lol thank you! thank you! thank you! I truly did all I could ( starts to cry a bit) It was a long negations with mother nature, but we hammered it out and struck a deal. thank you mother nature. ( cries a bit more) you're welcome Cubs, Chicago, and Cubs fans. walks off stage with my trophy, balling like a baby. lol That shit doesnt work. Jed tried that last year begging and pleading to Mother nature that how can he get all his players to perform above expectations so they can make the playoffs when shes blowing the wind in so much. But thanks for trying. its a joke for god sakes man. from his end of the year presser, it sounded like he blamed the weather. I don't have any control over mother nature. if I did, it be 70 degrees and sunshine everyday |
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Post by bryzzobrist on Dec 3, 2024 17:39:43 GMT -5
So it's Trav's fault I've been cold all day?
I do recall Theo imagining rain that wasn't there. Even calling the game. Maybe we're missing something.
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Post by trav768 on Dec 3, 2024 17:41:37 GMT -5
So it's Trav's fault I've been cold all day? I do recall Theo imagining rain that wasn't there. Even calling the game. Maybe we're missing something. yes, its my fault  I'm cold all day too |
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Post by batman66 on Dec 3, 2024 17:49:28 GMT -5
That shit doesnt work. Jed tried that last year begging and pleading to Mother nature that how can he get all his players to perform above expectations so they can make the playoffs when shes blowing the wind in so much. But thanks for trying. its a joke for god sakes man. from his end of the year presser, it sounded like he blamed the weather. I don't have any control over mother nature. if I did, it be 70 degrees and sunshine everyday No shit, My comment is obviously a joke too . Or maybe just an attempt at one. |
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Post by okeecub on Dec 3, 2024 20:04:15 GMT -5
So it's Trav's fault I've been cold all day? I do recall Theo imagining rain that wasn't there. Even calling the game. Maybe we're missing something. yes, it’s my fault I'm cold all day too dang Trav did you have to send it all the way to Florida too? We didn’t get out of the 60’s today either |
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Post by bryzzobrist on Dec 3, 2024 21:13:09 GMT -5
What about...
kevin alcantara, Jordan Wicks and Cody Bellinger to the Phillies for Andrew Painter and Nick Castellanos?
Phillies need to upgrade rf. Cubs are lefty sp heavy. Phillies eat some money.
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I'm cold all day too