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Post by Czarcastic on Jul 7, 2016 12:26:14 GMT -5
terrible post. you're expecting every player on the team to not struggle for the entire season which isn't fair or realistic. the only problem this team has (other than staying healthy) is the BP and it might need another starter, that's it. every player on every team "levels out" over the course of the season. all it comes down to is making the playoffs and getting hot once you're there. this team is as talented as any so they have the capability to do just that. That's what I said, they're leveling out, and at their usual level, I still need to see them beat a winning team or two in a series. They haven't showed that. That's all. I'm not expecting anything but for them to level out on around their career averages, that's what I said. Leveling out would indicate that you think they're a worse than .500 team. I'll be sure to bump this post when the slump is over and you're nowhere to be found. |
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Jul 7, 2016 12:26:35 GMT -5
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Post by sosacorks on Jul 7, 2016 12:33:15 GMT -5
That's what I said, they're leveling out, and at their usual level, I still need to see them beat a winning team or two in a series. They haven't showed that. That's all. I'm not expecting anything but for them to level out on around their career averages, that's what I said. Leveling out would indicate that you think they're a worse than .500 team. I'll be sure to bump this post when the slump is over and you're nowhere to be found. Hmm is he around when things are going well with the Cubs? He's this boards version of age but maybe slightly less annoying. |
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Post by mel10 on Jul 7, 2016 12:38:54 GMT -5
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Jul 7, 2016 12:40:49 GMT -5
Leveling out would indicate that you think they're a worse than .500 team. I'll be sure to bump this post when the slump is over and you're nowhere to be found. Hmm is he around when things are going well with the Cubs? He's this boards version of age but maybe slightly less annoying. I don't think he's saying anything that's so bad. We are not good enough to win in the post-season. We do not have the late pitching that the Royals, Giants & Cardinals had. And you can't win without that We don't win enough close ballgames. That's a fact. In fact, we're quite bad at it. Why does it upset you that he points this out? Is it his past transgressions? Because he is spot on, here. Apparently, management agrees with him, as they are feverishly trying to do something about it. We are one of the worst teams in the League at converting save opportunities. We are one of the worst teams in the League at preventing stolen bases. We are totally reliant on the Home Run. We hit very poorly with RISP and worse with 2 outs. So he says it. Get over it. |
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Post by sosacorks on Jul 7, 2016 12:47:23 GMT -5
Hmm is he around when things are going well with the Cubs? He's this boards version of age but maybe slightly less annoying. I don't think he's saying anything that's so bad. We are not good enough to win in the post-season. We do not have the late pitching that the Royals, Giants & Cardinals had. And you can't win without that We don't win enough close ballgames. That's a fact. In fact, we're quite bad at it. Why does it upset you that he points this out? Is it his past transgressions? Because he is spot on, here. Well he doesn't upset me at all so I'm not sure where you would be getting that from. Right now the Cubs are not playing well and that is apparent to pretty much everyone. The fact is that particular poster never has anything to say other than negativity when they are doing badly. It's really that simple. If you agree that right now the Cubs are "leveling off" to the team that they truly are then that means that you agree that this Cubs team should not finish above 500 for the season. I don't agree with that but if you do then that's your prerogative. |
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Jul 7, 2016 12:52:51 GMT -5
I don't think he's saying anything that's so bad. We are not good enough to win in the post-season. We do not have the late pitching that the Royals, Giants & Cardinals had. And you can't win without that We don't win enough close ballgames. That's a fact. In fact, we're quite bad at it. Why does it upset you that he points this out? Is it his past transgressions? Because he is spot on, here. Well he doesn't upset me at all so I'm not sure where you would be getting that from. Right now the Cubs are not playing well and that is apparent to pretty much everyone. The fact is that particular poster never has anything to say other than negativity when they are doing badly. It's really that simple. If you agree that right now the Cubs are "leveling off" to the team that they truly are then that means that you agree that this Cubs team should not finish above 500 for the season. I don't agree with that but if you do then that's your prerogative. I don't think it means that at all and I don't think you're the person to interpret how I feel. That would be as stupid as me saying you don't think we were going to level off and you thought we would play .730 ball, the rest of the way. We are leveling off. And our weaknesses, which were hidden during the blowout era of the season have been clearly exposed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 12:55:10 GMT -5
terrible post. you're expecting every player on the team to not struggle for the entire season which isn't fair or realistic. the only problem this team has (other than staying healthy) is the BP and it might need another starter, that's it. every player on every team "levels out" over the course of the season. all it comes down to is making the playoffs and getting hot once you're there. this team is as talented as any so they have the capability to do just that. That's what I said, they're leveling out, and at their usual level, I still need to see them beat a winning team or two in a series. They haven't showed that. That's all. I'm not expecting anything but for them to level out on around their career averages, that's what I said. so you just don't think they can beat good teams unless they're playing over their heads? that's absurd. obviously you're a "sky is falling" type. when healthy and the BP is shored up this team is fully capable of going toe to toe with any team in MLB. |
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Jul 7, 2016 12:57:17 GMT -5
That's what I said, they're leveling out, and at their usual level, I still need to see them beat a winning team or two in a series. They haven't showed that. That's all. I'm not expecting anything but for them to level out on around their career averages, that's what I said. so you just don't think they can beat good teams unless they're playing over their heads? that's absurd. obviously you're a "sky is falling" type. when healthy and the BP is shored up this team is fully capable of going toe to toe with any team in MLB. If the bullpen needs to be shored up, then wouldn't that mean that it's not good enough now? And wouldn't that mean that we aren't good enough now? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 12:58:17 GMT -5
Hmm is he around when things are going well with the Cubs? He's this boards version of age but maybe slightly less annoying. I don't think he's saying anything that's so bad. We are not good enough to win in the post-season. We do not have the late pitching that the Royals, Giants & Cardinals had. And you can't win without that We don't win enough close ballgames. That's a fact. In fact, we're quite bad at it. Why does it upset you that he points this out? Is it his past transgressions? Because he is spot on, here. Apparently, management agrees with him, as they are feverishly trying to do something about it. We are one of the worst teams in the League at converting save opportunities. We are one of the worst teams in the League at preventing stolen bases. We are totally reliant on the Home Run. We hit very poorly with RISP and worse with 2 outs. So he says it. Get over it. his problem is that he's projecting the one weak area of this team onto the entire roster. the BP will be fixed, i have no doubt the FO will get that done. when that happens and fowler gets back in the lineup his posts are going to look ridiculous. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 12:58:58 GMT -5
so you just don't think they can beat good teams unless they're playing over their heads? that's absurd. obviously you're a "sky is falling" type. when healthy and the BP is shored up this team is fully capable of going toe to toe with any team in MLB. If the bullpen needs to be shored up, then wouldn't that mean that it's not good enough now? And wouldn't that mean that we aren't good enough now? no. the BP has nothing to do with the rest of the roster. as i said above.... doom and gloomers will doom and gloom. |
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Post by pablovi on Jul 7, 2016 12:59:00 GMT -5
That's what I said, they're leveling out, and at their usual level, I still need to see them beat a winning team or two in a series. They haven't showed that. That's all. I'm not expecting anything but for them to level out on around their career averages, that's what I said. Leveling out would indicate that you think they're a worse than .500 team. I'll be sure to bump this post when the slump is over and you're nowhere to be found. Not at all, to level out from .700 you need to play lousy for a while close to .500. They're not as good as they were and are not as bad as they are right now. I still need to see they can beat a winning team or two in a series. And I actually posted a lot more in the beginning of the season, for about a month and a half, I don't have much time now, I have a two month daughter. So can even watch most of the games. And I don't post more because some of you don't like to hear negative people and get personal attacks and comments, when I only comment baseball. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 13:01:04 GMT -5
but they have beaten good teams, which has been pointed out to you several times but you ignore those posts for some reason...
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Post by pablovi on Jul 7, 2016 13:04:37 GMT -5
That's what I said, they're leveling out, and at their usual level, I still need to see them beat a winning team or two in a series. They haven't showed that. That's all. I'm not expecting anything but for them to level out on around their career averages, that's what I said. so you just don't think they can beat good teams unless they're playing over their heads? that's absurd. obviously you're a "sky is falling" type. when healthy and the BP is shored up this team is fully capable of going toe to toe with any team in MLB. I have to see it, I can't think they can or believe it. I don't think even healthy and shored up they will start playing .700 or above baseball. They can be above average, that's for sure. And I have to see them beat a winning team or two in a series so I can give them a chance to win it all. As of right now they can't win in the playoffs. |
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Post by pablovi on Jul 7, 2016 13:06:03 GMT -5
but they have beaten good teams, which has been pointed out to you several times but you ignore those posts for some reason... They did beat good teams a month and a half ago, or earlier. Not the team that is playing now, that's the whole, point they were playing way above their heads at that time. They have to beat good teams playing at their averages. That's all. |
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Post by pablovi on Jul 7, 2016 13:08:58 GMT -5
I don't think he's saying anything that's so bad. We are not good enough to win in the post-season. We do not have the late pitching that the Royals, Giants & Cardinals had. And you can't win without that We don't win enough close ballgames. That's a fact. In fact, we're quite bad at it. Why does it upset you that he points this out? Is it his past transgressions? Because he is spot on, here. Well he doesn't upset me at all so I'm not sure where you would be getting that from. Right now the Cubs are not playing well and that is apparent to pretty much everyone. The fact is that particular poster never has anything to say other than negativity when they are doing badly. It's really that simple. If you agree that right now the Cubs are "leveling off" to the team that they truly are then that means that you agree that this Cubs team should not finish above 500 for the season. I don't agree with that but if you do then that's your prerogative. Not at all, do you people know how an average works? And what leveling out is? I specifically say they should be around their career averages at the end. That means if they were playing .700 ball or above they need to play poorly for a while to level out at their real level. So the real level would be between what they played at their best and what they played at their worst. They haven't even played below .500. So how can they finish up below .500??? it will be between .700 and .500. |
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Post by Czarcastic on Jul 7, 2016 13:16:14 GMT -5
but they have beaten good teams, which has been pointed out to you several times but you ignore those posts for some reason... You need to see them beat a winning team or two in a series? What was the Pirates record when the Cubs swept them? Winning team. What was the Nationals record when the Cubs swept them? Winning team. What was the Cards' record when the Cubs 4 of their first 6 against them, winning 2 straight series, BOTH at Busch? Winning team. What you're doing is moving the goalposts so that you can never lose. |
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Post by pablovi on Jul 7, 2016 13:20:39 GMT -5
I don't think he's saying anything that's so bad. We are not good enough to win in the post-season. We do not have the late pitching that the Royals, Giants & Cardinals had. And you can't win without that We don't win enough close ballgames. That's a fact. In fact, we're quite bad at it. Why does it upset you that he points this out? Is it his past transgressions? Because he is spot on, here. Apparently, management agrees with him, as they are feverishly trying to do something about it. We are one of the worst teams in the League at converting save opportunities. We are one of the worst teams in the League at preventing stolen bases. We are totally reliant on the Home Run. We hit very poorly with RISP and worse with 2 outs. So he says it. Get over it. his problem is that he's projecting the one weak area of this team onto the entire roster. the BP will be fixed, i have no doubt the FO will get that done. when that happens and fowler gets back in the lineup his posts are going to look ridiculous. To me is not only one weak area. The rotation is not as good as it has been. And the hitting is pretty suspect, Heyward was a BIG part of the plan, the FO office actually did what I wanted after the season ended, two contact and small ball hitters, like Zobrist and Heyward, that got on base a lot, and rehiring Fowler. But unfortunately Heyward has not panned out. They were neede because we relied on HR's last year, and see were that got us on the NLCS... So this year started and we were a great hitting team! Patient and hitting for contact, Zobrist was amazing! And so was Fowler, but the entire team was patient and hitting for contact. They're not doing that anymore. |
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Post by pablovi on Jul 7, 2016 13:25:42 GMT -5
but they have beaten good teams, which has been pointed out to you several times but you ignore those posts for some reason... You need to see them beat a winning team or two in a series? What was the Pirates record when the Cubs swept them? Winning team. What was the Nationals record when the Cubs swept them? Winning team. What was the Cards' record when the Cubs 4 of their first 6 against them, winning 2 straight series, BOTH at Busch? Winning team. What you're doing is moving the goalposts so that you can never lose. I'm not, the last time we swept the Pirates they had a losing record. The last time we faced the Nats we lost the series, and the last time we faced the Cardinals we were swept. Like ive said numerous times, yeah we did beat those teams, easily when we were playing full strength and playing well above our players average. Not right now. And not for more than a month. |
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Jul 7, 2016 13:26:42 GMT -5
This is what he meant by leveling off and having your numbers reflect what you've done in the past:
Cubs ERA in Apr: 2.44
Cubs ERA in May: 2.91
Cubs ERA in Jun: 3.12
Cubs ERA in Jul: 7.76
Fowler BA in Apr: .347
Fowler BA in May: .295
Fowler BA in Jun: .207
Zobrist BA in Apr: .260
Zobrist BA in May: .406
Zobrist BA in Jun: .221
Zobrist BA in Jul: .125
We weren't as good as our numbers suggested in the first 31 games
And we aren't as bad as our numbers suggest in last 53 games
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