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Post by Mike on Nov 26, 2024 15:37:35 GMT -5
Heyesong Kim getting posted, lefty IF bat from KBO, could be a nice pickup.
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Post by bryzzobrist on Nov 26, 2024 15:46:18 GMT -5
Heyesong Kim getting posted, lefty IF bat from KBO, could be a nice pickup. Had to make sure you didn't mean Ha-Seong Kim, who ofcourse wasn't who you meant, since he's a FA right now. I wanted Ha-Seong Kim before at 3rd base, but am happy enough with Paredes there now and since Kim had an injury or two last season.
Hyeseong Kim for those who haven't looked him up yet, copied from mlb.com article:
Hyeseong Kim, one of the top hitters in the KBO, told reporters on Tuesday that he expects to be posted by his team soon, opening the door for the 25-year-old second baseman to become an MLB free agent.
Kim told Jeeho Yoo of South Korea’s Yonhap News Agency that the posting process will begin after Thanksgiving and to expect a formal announcement next week. Kim said he will travel to the United States once he is posted.
Kim has batted .304 and logged a .364 on-base percentage over eight seasons with the Kiwoom Heroes. Kim has also stolen at least 20 bases in each of the past seven seasons, reaching as high as 46 in 2021. A left-handed hitter, Kim slashed .326/.383/.458 with 11 home runs and 30 steals for Kiwoom this year.
He is also a strong defender up the middle, as he has won a KBO Golden Glove at second in 2022 and '23. He won the same award at shortstop in '21.
So if you compare numbers from these two guys in their last seasons w/ KBO
Ha-Seong .306/.397/.523 w/ 30 homers and 21sb's
Hyeseong .326/.383/.458 w/ 11 homers and 30 sb's
Hyesong doesn't appear to have the power that Ha-seong has, but aside from that they have a lot of similarities. This makes me want to assume that Hyseong could be a solid big leaguer, though the lack of power is a little concerning.
Anyone know about Hyesong's defense?
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Post by batman66 on Nov 26, 2024 18:42:41 GMT -5
Heyesong Kim getting posted, lefty IF bat from KBO, could be a nice pickup. Don't need another infielder unless they trade somebody and then they still don't because Shaw sure seems ready.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Nov 26, 2024 23:18:05 GMT -5
Snell signs with the Dodgers 5 year deal
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Nov 26, 2024 23:18:22 GMT -5
Snell 5/182
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Post by kfidd on Nov 26, 2024 23:49:03 GMT -5
Snell signs with the Dodgers 5 year deal 52m signing bonus… lolololol Bananas. I am not a big Snell fan and not upset by this news, but it really does seem like the Dodgers are entering a phase here of utter dominance. All I can say is I’m glad they aren’t in our division. 🤷♂️
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Post by fine09 on Nov 27, 2024 4:03:19 GMT -5
Snell signs with the Dodgers 5 year deal 52m signing bonus… lolololol Bananas. I am not a big Snell fan and not upset by this news, but it really does seem like the Dodgers are entering a phase here of utter dominance. All I can say is I’m glad they aren’t in our division. 🤷♂️ I agree completely at least with that contract. He has 2 seasons where he started over 30 games (both Cy Young winning seasons) in 9 years so this could turn out to be a very expensive contract if he isn't healthy as in the past.. The Dodgers & Mets are in a league of their own - at least as far as spending goes. Clearly the salary cap penalties aren't working.
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Post by happy on Nov 27, 2024 6:56:58 GMT -5
Snell signs with the Dodgers 5 year deal 52m signing bonus… lolololol Bananas. I am not a big Snell fan and not upset by this news, but it really does seem like the Dodgers are entering a phase here of utter dominance. All I can say is I’m glad they aren’t in our division. 🤷♂️ You realize signing bonuses are not necessarily paid out all at once right? “Signing bonuses” are simply lump sum payments agreed to paid on a certain date or dates. Jason Heyward, for example, signed a 20 million “signing bonus” that money was to/is to be paid in five million increments in 2024/25/26/27. I’m not attempting to insult anyone’s intelligence here but players only get paid during the season on a bi-weekly basis. So some players negotiate signing bonuses to get paid out each year of their contract during the offseason. Not in Snells case, but for some players signing bonuses are greatly advantageous because they can avoid a higher tax rate.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Nov 27, 2024 10:04:13 GMT -5
52m signing bonus… lolololol Bananas. I am not a big Snell fan and not upset by this news, but it really does seem like the Dodgers are entering a phase here of utter dominance. All I can say is I’m glad they aren’t in our division. 🤷♂️ I agree completely at least with that contract. He has 2 seasons where he started over 30 games (both Cy Young winning seasons) in 9 years so this could turn out to be a very expensive contract if he isn't healthy as in the past.. The Dodgers & Mets are in a league of their own - at least as far as spending goes. Clearly the salary cap penalties aren't working. No need to make excuses for other teams signings. Everyone likes a player in free agency until he signs with another team. I didn't care to give Snell a contract, but the Dodgers got better today by adding Snell.
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Post by happy on Nov 27, 2024 10:31:29 GMT -5
I agree completely at least with that contract. He has 2 seasons where he started over 30 games (both Cy Young winning seasons) in 9 years so this could turn out to be a very expensive contract if he isn't healthy as in the past.. The Dodgers & Mets are in a league of their own - at least as far as spending goes. Clearly the salary cap penalties aren't working. No need to make excuses for other teams signings. Everyone likes a player in free agency until he signs with another team. I didn't care to give Snell a contract, but the Dodgers got better today by adding Snell. Maybe Hoyer should take a page from the Dodgers book and learn what “intelligent spending” really is. Friedman has been a huge risk taker since joining LA, “oh we can mortgage the future for Betts” don’t care he’s elite. “Oh Glasnow has an injury history” don’t care, he’s elite “Snell has an injury history too…” don’t care either, he’s elite “Freeman is old…” and elite “Ew Gaterol? He’s hurt, we don’t want him” -Red Sox don’t care, elite talent “Ohtani to a mega deal? After two TJ surgery’s? No thanks” don’t care, elite “Ryu is a value” don’t care, not elite Meanwhile Jed is all like “Ian Happ for three prime years with a 20 million aav while providing 25 million value! Sign me up!” Better sign old Jameson too because we need depth Better give ol Stroman a contract because we need depth too Swanson is cheaper than Seager… better grab that guy too. Sure do need some more depth, let’s pick up Hendricks option as well. Hader is 20 million but we can get Neris for 12 hehe I’m so smart. Going back to 2017-let’s trade these high ceiling, low floor prospects for a middle of the rotation starter because he is a value and controllable… I’m a genius
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Nov 27, 2024 10:49:38 GMT -5
For the Dodgers it all started with the Mookie Betts trade after the 2019 season and NONE of the players in that deal came back to haunt the Dodgers.
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Post by kfidd on Nov 27, 2024 11:19:03 GMT -5
I agree completely at least with that contract. He has 2 seasons where he started over 30 games (both Cy Young winning seasons) in 9 years so this could turn out to be a very expensive contract if he isn't healthy as in the past.. The Dodgers & Mets are in a league of their own - at least as far as spending goes. Clearly the salary cap penalties aren't working. No need to make excuses for other teams signings. Everyone likes a player in free agency until he signs with another team. I didn't care to give Snell a contract, but the Dodgers got better today by adding Snell. There’s not excuses being made for the Dodgers and it’s clear that people have a lot of opinions on how to build a contending roster. I’m with fine, for the Cubs I didn’t like the fit with Snell and it’s why I’ve avoided commenting on him to avoid arguments that don’t lead anywhere. For the Dodgers? Go for it. They are clearly in a class of their own right now. Most owners won’t like their spending but as a fan I applaud them for it and wish we were in a position even half as good as their organizational health seems to be in. But I can say all that while believing Snell wasn’t the right fit for us. People can disagree with that and that’s fine, we’ve all got our own opinions. But the real kicker and why this is all such a problem is that while I don’t believe Snell made sense here I also don’t have hope we will pursue the players and strategy that I do believe in so all of this is moot. This franchise feels irrelevant now and it shouldn’t be that way.
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Post by TheChico on Nov 27, 2024 11:23:31 GMT -5
Blake Snell is getting as massive pay but he has been elite for 2 years and showing no signs of slowing down, the first half last year was a outliner.
Snell is a minimum a 4 Win player and I bet he at least gives that next season, now imagine Snell replacing Hendricks spot who had a -1.6 WAR last season, there is a case adding Snell adds possible 6 wins.
While I am not saying the Cubs should of signed him, but just shows adding an elite player can do to this team and why it is needed, there is just no margin for error otherwise.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Nov 27, 2024 11:44:27 GMT -5
No need to make excuses for other teams signings. Everyone likes a player in free agency until he signs with another team. I didn't care to give Snell a contract, but the Dodgers got better today by adding Snell. There’s not excuses being made for the Dodgers and it’s clear that people have a lot of opinions on how to build a contending roster. I’m with fine, for the Cubs I didn’t like the fit with Snell and it’s why I’ve avoided commenting on him to avoid arguments that don’t lead anywhere. For the Dodgers? Go for it. They are clearly in a class of their own right now. Most owners won’t like their spending but as a fan I applaud them for it and wish we were in a position even half as good as their organizational health seems to be in. But I can say all that while believing Snell wasn’t the right fit for us. People can disagree with that and that’s fine, we’ve all got our own opinions. But the real kicker and why this is all such a problem is that while I don’t believe Snell made sense here I also don’t have hope we will pursue the players and strategy that I do believe in so all of this is moot. This franchise feels irrelevant now and it shouldn’t be that way. I wasn't referring to Snell's fit with the Cubs, but fine went straight to injuries. Snell is a good pitcher and there are no arm injuries (groin last year). The rich got richer today.
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Post by batman66 on Nov 27, 2024 13:24:41 GMT -5
There’s not excuses being made for the Dodgers and it’s clear that people have a lot of opinions on how to build a contending roster. I’m with fine, for the Cubs I didn’t like the fit with Snell and it’s why I’ve avoided commenting on him to avoid arguments that don’t lead anywhere. For the Dodgers? Go for it. They are clearly in a class of their own right now. Most owners won’t like their spending but as a fan I applaud them for it and wish we were in a position even half as good as their organizational health seems to be in. But I can say all that while believing Snell wasn’t the right fit for us. People can disagree with that and that’s fine, we’ve all got our own opinions. But the real kicker and why this is all such a problem is that while I don’t believe Snell made sense here I also don’t have hope we will pursue the players and strategy that I do believe in so all of this is moot. This franchise feels irrelevant now and it shouldn’t be that way. I wasn't referring to Snell's fit with the Cubs, but fine went straight to injuries. Snell is a good pitcher and there are no arm injuries (groin last year). The rich got richer today. When Snell is healthy he is one of the best in baseball. The Dodgers dont seem to care much about the injury risk they just look at the talent level . Now if they sign Sasaki they have a rotation of 5 ace level pitchers. Ohtani, Yamamoto, Snell, Sasaki, Glasnow. That is insane.
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Post by batman66 on Nov 27, 2024 13:28:13 GMT -5
Blake Snell is getting as massive pay but he has been elite for 2 years and showing no signs of slowing down, the first half last year was a outliner. Snell is a minimum a 4 Win player and I bet he at least gives that next season, now imagine Snell replacing Hendricks spot who had a -1.6 WAR last season, there is a case adding Snell adds possible 6 wins. While I am not saying the Cubs should of signed him, but just shows adding an elite player can do to this team and why it is needed, there is just no margin for error otherwise. Im saying it. The Cubs should have signed him. A top 3 of Snell, Steele , Imanaga would be tough to match in the playoffs until you get to LA. This is the guy other than obviously Soto that could have taken the Cubs to the next step. This contract would not have kiĺled them.
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Post by bryzzobrist on Nov 27, 2024 13:50:32 GMT -5
52m signing bonus… lolololol Bananas. I am not a big Snell fan and not upset by this news, but it really does seem like the Dodgers are entering a phase here of utter dominance. All I can say is I’m glad they aren’t in our division. 🤷♂️ I agree completely at least with that contract. He has 2 seasons where he started over 30 games (both Cy Young winning seasons) in 9 years so this could turn out to be a very expensive contract if he isn't healthy as in the past.. The Dodgers & Mets are in a league of their own - at least as far as spending goes. Clearly the salary cap penalties aren't working. Just wait until these contracts age.
It'll catch up to the Dodgers, no doubt about it.
Freeman is signed for 3 more seasons and it's not unreasonable to think he can produce for a few more, but is bound to regress. Mookie is signed for 8 more seasons. Ohtani for 9 years I think. Yamamoto for 12 more. Snell 5 years.
There's just no way the Dodgers future won't be jacked up from their current spending.
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Post by batman66 on Nov 27, 2024 13:53:36 GMT -5
I agree completely at least with that contract. He has 2 seasons where he started over 30 games (both Cy Young winning seasons) in 9 years so this could turn out to be a very expensive contract if he isn't healthy as in the past.. The Dodgers & Mets are in a league of their own - at least as far as spending goes. Clearly the salary cap penalties aren't working. Just wait until these contracts age.
It'll catch up to the Dodgers, no doubt about it.
Sure, eventually but they will probably have multiple world championships and thats what its all about and to them the money doesnt matter.
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Post by bryzzobrist on Nov 27, 2024 13:55:31 GMT -5
Just wait until these contracts age.
It'll catch up to the Dodgers, no doubt about it.
Sure, eventually but they will probably have multiple world championships and thats what its all about and to them the money doesnt matter. It might not matter now, but it'll matter later.
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Post by kfidd on Nov 27, 2024 14:04:53 GMT -5
I still think Snell is all about the fit. The Dodgers don’t need to worry so much about his health (we can say whatever we want about his injuries and being arm related or not, the guy has routinely had issues staying on the field) and trademark slow starts. They have the confidence of knowing they are overwhelmingly headed to the postseason and can baby him to make sure he’s ready for October. We have to worry about first making the playoffs and a key to getting there is weathering the regular season storm.
Consecutive seasons now we have endured brutal first halves that have let to conflicted approaches at the deadline. Last season the pitching staff was decimated by injuries. In my opinion the biggest thing we need in our rotation is stability. For as good as Snell can be he has been awfully inconsistent, both in terms of results (last four seasons by ERA+: 92, 112, 187, 124) and staying on the field (last four seasons by IP: 128.2, 128.0, 180.0, 104.0). Snell doesn’t offer the assurance that we need in my opinion to first get to October baseball before worrying about building specifically for winning in October.
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