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Post by Mike on Aug 8, 2024 23:48:42 GMT -5
Different circumstances, our strength of schedule is easier the rest of the way than those previous times.
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Post by threeandone on Aug 9, 2024 7:47:07 GMT -5
Different circumstances, our strength of schedule is easier the rest of the way than those previous times. I don't think strength of schedule matters with this crew. When they are bad, their offense is horrendously bad. Anybody will beat them. They need to have the offense show up every single day now to have a chance. |
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Aug 9, 2024 8:07:42 GMT -5
Different circumstances, our strength of schedule is easier the rest of the way than those previous times. Mets (11 Under) White Sox (25 Under) Royals (46 Under) Tigers (11 Under) Pirates (15 Under) Our September schedule last year includedGiants (.500) Rockies (41 Under) Pirates (11 Under) Rockies (43 Under) 27 of 56 Games in August & September vs .500 and well below (17-10) .629In the Game against the other Teams, the Cubs went (13-16) .448Overall (30-26) .536←←←Keep that in mind and think... If it's .600 this year, it won't cut it. |
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Post by kfidd on Aug 9, 2024 8:14:04 GMT -5
Strength of schedule *should* matter but I don’t believe this Cubs group has earned that respect and buy-in yet. Last season’s stretch run is a perfect example and this team is mostly the same group. Talk is cheap boys in blue. Until they prove that they can consistently beat sub .500 teams (which they are one of…) then strength of schedule is meaningless. In fact, this bass ackwards team seems to play better baseball against good teams only then to feel underprepared when facing bad ones. SooOooOo 🤷♂️
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Aug 9, 2024 8:44:02 GMT -5
https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/1ens7lx/the_5760_cubs_have_the_most_wins_against_teams/
The 57-60 Cubs have the MOST wins against teams over .500 in the National League. Only the Yankees have more in MLB.
41 of their 57 wins this year have come from >.500 baseball clubs, with series wins such as the Orioles, Braves, and Dodgers adding to the total.
72.6% of their games have been against over .500 teams
23 trips to the IL
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Post by skokiejoe on Aug 9, 2024 8:45:00 GMT -5
WC Standings
WC1 Padres 64-52 +3.0
WC2 D-Backs 63-53 +2.0
WC3 Mets 61-54 …….
Braves 60-54 .5GB
Cards 59-57 2.5GB
Giants 59-58 3.0GB
Pirates 56-58 4.5GB
Cubs 57-60 5.0GB
Reds 56-59 5.0GB
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Aug 9, 2024 8:56:08 GMT -5
WC Standings WC1 Padres 64-52 +3.0 WC2 D-Backs 63-53 +2.0 WC3 Mets 61-54 ……. Braves 60-54 .5GB Cards 59-57 2.5GB Giants 59-58 3.0GB Pirates 56-58 4.5GB Cubs 57-60 5.0GB Reds 56-59 5.0GB Braves drop below Playoff Level. But they had injuries, so it's ok for them. |
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Post by kfidd on Aug 9, 2024 9:24:58 GMT -5
Every team deals with injuries. Some will be more severe than others but at the end of the day they are part of the game and to be expected. Making excuses because of them never serves anyone any good. What should be expected is that good teams have the ability to rise up and overcome them.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Aug 9, 2024 9:34:01 GMT -5
Cubs off day and they lose .5 in the WC standings, which is why I'm realizing for the first time how hard it is to jump teams.
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Post by batman66 on Aug 9, 2024 15:06:21 GMT -5
Reading is fundamental ! <<I don't expect them to catch them , just saying I like the chances more to catch one team than all the WC contenders even though the division is a longer climb.>> So , no I'm not dreaming , I literally said I don't expect them to catch them and if I was dreaming then I would have said I expect them to catch them. Weird take.... they have to jump 4 teams and are 4.5 out of the WC. For the division they have to jump 3 teams and are 9.5 games out (11 in the loss column) with 0 games left vs 2 of those teams, including the division leader. I'd like their chances vs 4 teams and 4.5 games, but ok. Here is why , and again I'm not saying I think it will happen , just saying I like the chances more to pass Pitt, Stl and Milwaukee than I do Pitt , STL, Giants, Mets ....all those I think could be caught , but they are not catching Alt, Az, and SD I think they POSSIBLY can jump STL and Pitts and make a run at the Brewers and yes it is tough with no head to heads , but the 3 teams currently with WC spots two of them SD and the DBacks are playing well and I think grab the top 2 spots so the Cubs are not getting in there and then you have Atlanta and the Mets back and forth for the last spot and Atlanta is Atlanta so I expect them to pull it off since they are usually a playoff team , and the Mets are the Mets and will probably choke. |
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Aug 9, 2024 19:57:19 GMT -5
But it’s not equal… it’s 11 games in the loss column vs 5 games in the WC
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Aug 10, 2024 3:21:41 GMT -5
Every team deals with injuries. What should be expected is that good teams have the ability to rise up and overcome them. How many successful teams have dealt with 23 trips to the IL? Including 4 of their 5 Starters? 4 of their top Relievers - Including their top Innings guy & Closer? And a dozen kids, they brought up to replace them? Plus, 4 of their top Hitters & 1 of them (the most valuable one)... Twice? And to boot? 7 of their top MiLB Hitters & Pitchers, who were in-line to contribute? Is that something EVERY team deals with? |
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Post by thisbuds4u on Aug 10, 2024 4:25:09 GMT -5
Every team deals with injuries. What should be expected is that good teams have the ability to rise up and overcome them. How many successful teams have dealt with 23 trips to the IL? Including 4 of their 5 Starters? 4 of their top Relievers - Including their top Innings guy & Closer? And a dozen kids, they brought up to replace them? Plus 4 of the top Hitters & 1 if them twice? And to boot? 7 of their top MiLB Hitters & Pitchers, who were expected to contribute? Is that something EVERY team deals with? The Dodgers, Braves and D-Backs have all dealt with significant injuries to pitchers and position players. And I'm sure there are others. The Cubs are in this position because of poor play in May and June. |
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Post by kfidd on Aug 10, 2024 4:40:19 GMT -5
Every team deals with injuries. What should be expected is that good teams have the ability to rise up and overcome them. How many successful teams have dealt with 23 trips to the IL? Including 4 of their 5 Starters? 4 of their top Relievers - Including their top Innings guy & Closer? And a dozen kids, they brought up to replace them? Plus, 4 of their top Hitters & 1 of them (the most valuable one)... Twice? And to boot? 7 of their top MiLB Hitters & Pitchers, who were in-line to contribute? Is that something EVERY team deals with? Yes, every team deals with injuries. There are plenty of ways to quantify how injured teams have been, who has suffered the most, etc etc. Trying to argue that point any one way is a rabbit hole waiting to happen. Here are two random ones. Total number of days spent with players on the IL (allowing for overlap so that if three players are on the IL one day it counts as three) 1. Dodgers - 962 2. Rangers - 900 3. Red Sox - 872 4. Yankees - 851 5. Athletics - 833 … 20. Cubs - 558 Total number of projected WAR lost with players on the IL 1. Dodgers - 6.86 2. Rangers - 6.57 3. Rays - 5.78 4. Yankees - 5.30 5. Marlins - 5.02 … 17. Cubs - 3.05 I won’t bother digging up more and am fully prepared for your response to have more numbers and figures arguing the opposite. I just think it’s an expected part of the game that needs to be dealt with and excuses don’t help one way or the other. Every team deals with injuries. Just because the Cubs have had a lot this season does not make them special in that regard. As thisbuds4u just said, the Cubs are in this position because they played like trash for a multiple month stretch of games just as they did last season. |
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Aug 10, 2024 10:11:19 GMT -5
Cubs Win.Mets, Braves, Pirates & Reds all lose. DBacks beat Phillies. Bottom of 9th Win (3-2). Cubs pass Pirates  Giants next up (-2.0) Cards (0.5) ahead of the Giants. Cubs now 4 games out of last Playoff Spot (Mets).  But... Cubs lose tiebreaker to Mets, Braves, Giants, Cardinals & Padres. Cubs 3-3 vs DBacks. Sprinkled in, with that "Easiest" Schedule... 3 left vs Yankees. 3 left @ Guardians 3 left @ Dodgers 3 left @ Phillies MUST feast... NOW Cubs 7-2 ( .778) in their last 9 Cubs 9-4 ( .692) in their last 13 (Scored 5+ in every win) Cubs 19-12 ( .613) in their last 31 Includes -- Phillies, Orioles, Cardinals, DBacks, Brewers, Royals, Reds, Cardinals & Twins. Along with White Turds & Angels.
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Post by lu13cubbie on Aug 10, 2024 11:23:55 GMT -5
Cubs Win.Mets, Braves, Pirates & Reds all lose. DBacks beat Phillies. Bottom of 9th Win (3-2). Cubs pass Pirates Giants next up (-2.0) Cards (0.5) ahead of the Giants. Cubs now 4 games out of last Playoff Spot (Mets). But... Cubs lose tiebreaker to Mets, Braves, Giants, Cardinals & Padres. Cubs 3-3 vs DBacks. Sprinkled in, with that "Easiest" Schedule... 3 left vs Yankees. 3 left @ Guardians 3 left @ Dodgers 3 left @ Phillies MUST feast... NOW Cubs 7-2 ( .778) in their last 9 Cubs 9-4 ( .692) in their last 13 (Scored 5+ in every win) Cubs 19-12 ( .613) in their last 31 Includes -- Phillies, Orioles, Cardinals, DBacks, Brewers, Royals, Reds, Cardinals & Twins. Along with White Turds & Angels. The Cubs are going to be playing meaningful baseball games down the stretch, maybe into football season. That means alot to this old Cub fan. |
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Post by irishcubfan on Aug 10, 2024 12:45:51 GMT -5
The problem with bringing up the injury argument is that a lot of the major loss of time should have been expected: examples being Alzolay, Bellinger, Suzuki.
The Steele injury was a definite setback and unexpected, especially being game 1 of a season.
Cubs lack of depth also contributed to this very mediocre to now average season. Big market teams should not be counting on Wisdom, Madrigal, Mastro, Tauchman to step in and play significant stretches.
Clearly the Cubs did not buy into Canario and Mervis being any type of solution from the system nor other AAA contributors at that point in time.
The Cubs were essentially forced to play PCA due to his vastly superior defense/base running and now hopefully his recent offensive surge is real and subsequently a bright spot for now and the future.
Counting on Alzolay at all going into a season as a significant piece is just poor planning.
Minor league prospects on the pitching side always have injury risks and set backs thus the reason this FO and many other prefer offensive college bats for premium picks.
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Post by irishcubfan on Aug 10, 2024 12:47:03 GMT -5
Cubs Win.Mets, Braves, Pirates & Reds all lose. DBacks beat Phillies. Bottom of 9th Win (3-2). Cubs pass Pirates Giants next up (-2.0) Cards (0.5) ahead of the Giants. Cubs now 4 games out of last Playoff Spot (Mets). But... Cubs lose tiebreaker to Mets, Braves, Giants, Cardinals & Padres. Cubs 3-3 vs DBacks. Sprinkled in, with that "Easiest" Schedule... 3 left vs Yankees. 3 left @ Guardians 3 left @ Dodgers 3 left @ Phillies MUST feast... NOW Cubs 7-2 ( .778) in their last 9 Cubs 9-4 ( .692) in their last 13 (Scored 5+ in every win) Cubs 19-12 ( .613) in their last 31 Includes -- Phillies, Orioles, Cardinals, DBacks, Brewers, Royals, Reds, Cardinals & Twins. Along with White Turds & Angels. The Cubs are going to be playing meaningful baseball games down the stretch, maybe into football season. That means alot to this old Cub fan. Playoff format is doing its job. |
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Post by thisbuds4u on Aug 10, 2024 13:21:28 GMT -5
I'm interested in seeing who gets called up when the roster expands in September. I wonder if Hoyer will trust bringing up some of the young players if the Cubs are contending for a playoff spot.
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Post by fine09 on Aug 10, 2024 13:36:44 GMT -5
The problem with bringing up the injury argument is that a lot of the major loss of time should have been expected: examples being Alzolay, Bellinger, Suzuki. The Steele injury was a definite setback and unexpected, especially being game 1 of a season. Cubs lack of depth also contributed to this very mediocre to now average season. Big market teams should not be counting on Wisdom, Madrigal, Mastro, Tauchman to step in and play significant stretches. Clearly the Cubs did not buy into Canario and Mervis being any type of solution from the system nor other AAA contributors at that point in time. The Cubs were essentially forced to play PCA due to his vastly superior defense/base running and now hopefully his recent offensive surge is real and subsequently a bright spot for now and the future. Counting on Alzolay at all going into a season as a significant piece is just poor planning. Minor league prospects on the pitching side always have injury risks and set backs thus the reason this FO and many other prefer offensive college bats for premium picks. With 2023 as our very good & healthy closer it wasn’t that much of a reach to expect close to that in 2024. Belli’s had freak injuries the past 2 years in a row now so impossible to plan on that stuff happening. Our BP was decimated & had only 1 of our starting pitchers avoid time on the IL. Then again injuries are part of the game but it was more a case of bad luck than poor planning / reluctance to spend.. |
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