|
Post by tehmpus on May 28, 2016 13:21:04 GMT -5
I agree that Spencer Patton has earned the first chance when the Cubs choose to give a bullpen opportunity
|
|
|
Post by Uncle Gary on May 30, 2016 19:26:35 GMT -5
Bullpen looked pretty fantastic against the Dodgers today. Almost a combined no hitter
|
|
|
Post by 2mileshighillini on May 31, 2016 10:49:39 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Corndog on May 31, 2016 10:58:14 GMT -5
Probably see a couple of them in September. I think Concepcion has the best chance of a call up since he's the only lefty. Really just need to do what the OP said, DFA Richards and call up Concepcion. Other than that, the pen has been strong this year.
|
|
|
Post by batman66 on May 31, 2016 12:35:40 GMT -5
I agree that Spencer Patton has earned the first chance when the Cubs choose to give a bullpen opportunity Patton has earned it, but the pen is pretty set from the right side. They need a lefty that can actually get a lefty out when Joe wants to play the lefty/righty thing that hasn't worked this season because Richard has failed in just about every opportunity. Wood has pitched well at times(great yesterday) but even he has failed in a few get me the lefty out situations.
|
|
|
Post by Uncle Gary on May 31, 2016 13:41:02 GMT -5
I just read that the Cubs contacted the Yankees about Nathan Eovaldi. Rumors say the Yankees asked for Baez.
I am not sure if Eovaldi goes in the rotation or the pen but he does not make the Cubs more left-handed. I know you have to trade talent to get talent but I hate to see Baez go. Just not a good fit in my opinion
|
|
|
Post by batman66 on May 31, 2016 17:30:04 GMT -5
I just read that the Cubs contacted the Yankees about Nathan Eovaldi. Rumors say the Yankees asked for Baez. I am not sure if Eovaldi goes in the rotation or the pen but he does not make the Cubs more left-handed. I know you have to trade talent to get talent but I hate to see Baez go. Just not a good fit in my opinion I don't want to deal Baez. But Eovaldi is a potential Arrieta . I know the Yankees need to bring in talent, but it doesn't make sense to deal a guy like that when they need pitching. He can get it up around or over 100 and his secondary pitches are improving. I think his main problem and why he gives up so many hits is he throws too many pitches over the meat of the plate. If you watch the Cubs staff, they don't do that and thats why they are so effective. He could be an easy fix for Bosio . He's actually a guy with enough talent to be an ace
|
|
|
Post by Uncle Gary on May 31, 2016 17:44:47 GMT -5
I just read that the Cubs contacted the Yankees about Nathan Eovaldi. Rumors say the Yankees asked for Baez. I am not sure if Eovaldi goes in the rotation or the pen but he does not make the Cubs more left-handed. I know you have to trade talent to get talent but I hate to see Baez go. Just not a good fit in my opinion I don't want to deal Baez. But Eovaldi is a potential Arrieta . I know the Yankees need to bring in talent, but it doesn't make sense to deal a guy like that when they need pitching. He can get it up around or over 100 and his secondary pitches are improving. I think his main problem and why he gives up so many hits is he throws too many pitches over the meat of the plate. If you watch the Cubs staff, they don't do that and thats why they are so effective. He could be an easy fix for Bosio . He's actually a guy with enough talent to be an ace You bring up good points. I would rather see prospects go for him. Torres instead of Baez and throw in an A-ball pitcher (I don't know the exact package to build). Baez is just too important as a depth piece in my opinion.
|
|
|
Post by southpaw773 on May 31, 2016 23:49:51 GMT -5
Bump
|
|
|
Post by bbuck22 on Jun 1, 2016 0:03:02 GMT -5
Well it appears they are going to have to make a move for a good lefty in the bullpen.
|
|
|
Post by Uncle Gary on Jun 1, 2016 4:28:52 GMT -5
There has also been speculation about Andrew Miller. Maybe a package deal for the two. I can't imagine what the asking price will be for that.
|
|
|
Post by batman66 on Jun 1, 2016 10:08:17 GMT -5
Well it appears they are going to have to make a move for a good lefty in the bullpen. I will really be surprised if he makes it through the day on the Cubs roster. Last night should be the final straw. I don't know how many time this season he was brought in to get a one lefty out and failed , last night 3 in a row. At this point a right handed pitcher has a better chance to get a lefty out so there is no point in keeping him around. Thanks for last season, he did a good job, but this season he's not helped at all.
|
|
|
Post by TheNatural on Jun 1, 2016 10:25:49 GMT -5
Well it appears they are going to have to make a move for a good lefty in the bullpen. I will really be surprised if he makes it through the day on the Cubs roster. Last night should be the final straw. I don't know how many time this season he was brought in to get a one lefty out and failed , last night 3 in a row. At this point a right handed pitcher has a better chance to get a lefty out so there is no point in keeping him around. Thanks for last season, he did a good job, but this season he's not helped at all. I will be ill if hes on this team at days end. He was brought in with 4 lefties coming up. He couldnt do a damn thing with any of them. This is beyond the excuses of it being early and he isnt getting enough work. The only work he should see moving forward is being a beer vendor in the bleachers. This is/was a huge hole on our team since day one and it needs fixing before it costs us more games. Especially if Wood is going to be the long arm.
|
|
|
Post by batman66 on Jun 1, 2016 10:33:10 GMT -5
I will really be surprised if he makes it through the day on the Cubs roster. Last night should be the final straw. I don't know how many time this season he was brought in to get a one lefty out and failed , last night 3 in a row. At this point a right handed pitcher has a better chance to get a lefty out so there is no point in keeping him around. Thanks for last season, he did a good job, but this season he's not helped at all. I will be ill if hes on this team at days end. He was brought in with 4 lefties coming up. He couldnt do a damn thing with any of them. This is beyond the excuses of it being early and he isnt getting enough work. The only work he should see moving forward is being a beer vendor in the bleachers. This is/was a huge hole on our team since day one and it needs fixing before it costs us more games. Especially if Wood is going to be the long arm. It has to end, there is no point having him on the roster anymore. He was to be used as a situational lefty This season and this is frightening, he's faced 26 lefties, 13 have gotten on base, 10 hits, 2 walks , 1 hit batter, thats a .500 OPB and he's only struck out 2
|
|
|
Post by jsnhbe1 on Jun 1, 2016 11:15:44 GMT -5
If he isn't DFAd then we need to start a chant every time he starts to warm up. D F A
|
|
|
Post by TheNatural on Jun 1, 2016 12:46:21 GMT -5
Because you can't have Travis Wood as the only left handed reliever in the pen, regarding Ramirez vs Richard Id rather Aramis Ramirez pitch against lefties before I trot Richard out there again.
|
|
|
Post by tehmpus on Jun 1, 2016 15:49:01 GMT -5
I just read that the Cubs contacted the Yankees about Nathan Eovaldi. Rumors say the Yankees asked for Baez. I am not sure if Eovaldi goes in the rotation or the pen but he does not make the Cubs more left-handed. I know you have to trade talent to get talent but I hate to see Baez go. Just not a good fit in my opinion I think everybody pretty much knows that I was anti-Richard all the way from the offseason, so I have no Richard love to worry about. IMO Baez could be traded, but for something the Cubs need ... a top of the rotation starter still in the minor leagues. The Nationals need a real shortstop. We need Lucas Giolitto. That's the main portion of a suitable trade.
|
|
|
Post by TheNatural on Jun 1, 2016 16:10:23 GMT -5
I just read that the Cubs contacted the Yankees about Nathan Eovaldi. Rumors say the Yankees asked for Baez. I am not sure if Eovaldi goes in the rotation or the pen but he does not make the Cubs more left-handed. I know you have to trade talent to get talent but I hate to see Baez go. Just not a good fit in my opinion I think everybody pretty much knows that I was anti-Richard all the way from the offseason, so I have no Richard love to worry about. IMO Baez could be traded, but for something the Cubs need ... a top of the rotation starter still in the minor leagues. The Nationals need a real shortstop. We need Lucas Giolitto. That's the main portion of a suitable trade. I havent been a fan of Richard or Cahill, although Charlie (its his nickname when he screws up and I yell at my TV) has had his good moments. Hes partially made me eat some crow at times. Other times he looks like a bum. I really dont know about the need for a TOR unless an injury occurs. It would be adding to a strength but we really need BP help. I wouldnt scoff at trading Baez for Giolitto but we may eat that one down the road. Im a bit reluctant to dealing Baez unless it blows us away. I think we have minors pieces to obtain a good young arm without dismantling the MLB squad. I do believe Baez is showing that he is part of the team and future. We do need BP help. Warren, Rondon, and 2/3's of Strop, are solid. Wood is showing major improvement. Grimm is ok. Besides that everyone else looks suspect. We definitely need a lefty specialist. The thing is they are a dime o' dozen. The only problem is that we dont have one. This can be fixed easily. I still think if we are looking at October we need one more bullet in the bullpen. And the options for trading there are infinite.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 16:42:21 GMT -5
There has also been speculation about Andrew Miller. Maybe a package deal for the two. I can't imagine what the asking price will be for that. that sounds too expensive to be worthwhile IMO and to be honest, eovaldi doesn't fit on the roster right now. one guy they should look into is LHRP marc rzepczynski from oakland. he doesn't have great numbers overall but seems to be effective against lefties. he's a FA after this season and probably wouldn't be too expensive to acquire. give him a shot and see how he does. if he doesn't get it done, DFA and bring up concepcion. or maybe the other way around. give concepcion a shot and if that doesn't work look to acquire this guy or someone else. all i know for sure is that richard has got to go ASAP. he's the only weak link on the pitching staff. only guy with an ERA north of 4....
|
|
|
Post by TheNatural on Jun 1, 2016 16:51:09 GMT -5
There has also been speculation about Andrew Miller. Maybe a package deal for the two. I can't imagine what the asking price will be for that. The front office knows more than I so if they do this its all good. But I think Andrew Miller is not what we need. He will cost prospects and his paycheck could hinder the future. Not to mention you arent getting him to be a lefty specialist. Your getting him to be an 8th inning guy. I think there will be cheaper options to get a lefty specialist and a cheaper/ better option for the pen.
|
|