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Post by lajoiesghost on May 16, 2023 15:13:41 GMT -5
I would be against trading anyone who might be a part of our future, so forget Brown and Wicks. Davis would be selling low, so no on him too, let's see if he works himself out of it. As for Chapman, I'm not sold on that either, just because I don't want the Cubs to go down the same road they did with the 2016 team where everyone needs their second contract at close to the same time and we have too many expensive vets to get it done. We have a helluva lot of talent working toward Chicago in the next few years. Keep this window open longer this time. Invest in our own and maybe an ace pitcher.
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Post by lajoiesghost on May 16, 2023 15:23:36 GMT -5
Back the the topic, anyone think Stro will take a discount & do 3/60 or 3/63M? I would consider 3 years for the Cubs but I doubt Stro would.
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Post by batman66 on May 16, 2023 15:52:28 GMT -5
Back the the topic, anyone think Stro will take a discount & do 3/60 or 3/63M? Possibly , he really seems like he's genuine in wanting to stay but it might take closer to 70.
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Post by kfidd on May 16, 2023 16:17:37 GMT -5
Back the the topic, anyone think Stro will take a discount & do 3/60 or 3/63M? Stroman just turned 32. Whatever team he begins his new contract with (assuming he opts out this winter) gets him for years 33+. I don’t see how it would be in his benefit to sign just a 3 year contract. For reference, Chris Bassitt who is 2 years older and a lesser pitcher just signed a 3/61 deal this past offseason. I think a Stroman extension starts at 4 years, in his eyes preferably 5. I think he stands a good chance at getting it in free agency too as after Ohtani, Urias, and Nola, who should all get monster deals, he’s the clear top starting pitcher on the market. Shouldn’t have to settle at all and there should be plenty of competition for his services from the teams who didn’t want to “go there” for the top three pitchers. So my guess is no, Stroman doesn’t sign a 3 year extension with us.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 16:38:06 GMT -5
Back the the topic, anyone think Stro will take a discount & do 3/60 or 3/63M? Stroman just turned 32. Whatever team he begins his new contract with (assuming he opts out this winter) gets him for years 33+. I don’t see how it would be in his benefit to sign just a 3 year contract. For reference, Chris Bassitt who is 2 years older and a lesser pitcher just signed a 3/61 deal this past offseason. I think a Stroman extension starts at 4 years, in his eyes preferably 5. I think he stands a good chance at getting it in free agency too as after Ohtani, Urias, and Nola, who should all get monster deals, he’s the clear top starting pitcher on the market. Shouldn’t have to settle at all and there should be plenty of competition for his services from the teams who didn’t want to “go there” for the top three pitchers. So my guess is no, Stroman doesn’t sign a 3 year extension with us. Unfortunately more than 3 is a hard pass for me.
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Post by Mike on May 16, 2023 18:29:44 GMT -5
Julio Urias turns 27 in 100 days; that's one to keep an eye on.
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Post by bryzzobrist on May 17, 2023 14:05:37 GMT -5
A couple articles talking about how Cubs should trade for Aroldis Chapman. We need a closer. I'm on board for the right price. We have room to take on his few mill in salary. His velocity is up this season and his underlying stats are sexy.
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Post by Mike on May 17, 2023 14:09:41 GMT -5
Burdi or Sanders will probably be the guy until Codi Heuer is back to normal.
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Post by fine09 on May 17, 2023 18:37:37 GMT -5
Back the the topic, anyone think Stro will take a discount & do 3/60 or 3/63M? He just might unless some team is offering 4 or 5 at an AAV that is close. He really does like it here..
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Post by fine09 on May 17, 2023 18:39:08 GMT -5
Julio Urias turns 27 in 100 days; that's one to keep an eye on. Exactly right.. We need him.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2023 18:48:23 GMT -5
Julio Urias turns 27 in 100 days; that's one to keep an eye on. Exactly right.. We need him. What a season it's been for a Cubbies fan. We want the only Ace we shelled & threw batting practice to us. 🤣🤣
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Post by fine09 on May 18, 2023 7:42:24 GMT -5
Exactly right.. We need him. What a season it's been for a Cubbies fan. We want the only Ace we shelled & threw batting practice to us. 🤣🤣 That's true but it was also his first poor game this year.
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Post by TheChico on May 18, 2023 11:58:31 GMT -5
What a season it's been for a Cubbies fan. We want the only Ace we shelled & threw batting practice to us. 🤣🤣 That's true but it was also his first poor game this year. Correct, it was just a bad game it happens throughout the season. Stroman is usually as dependable as it gets.
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Post by batman66 on May 18, 2023 12:10:15 GMT -5
That's true but it was also his first poor game this year. Correct, it was just a bad game it happens throughout the season. Stroman is usually as dependable as it gets. I think he was talking about Urias with that comment since it said "we want the only ace we shelled" , not sure though ?
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Post by TheChico on May 18, 2023 12:16:26 GMT -5
Correct, it was just a bad game it happens throughout the season. Stroman is usually as dependable as it gets. I think he was talking about Urias with that comment since it said "we want the only ace we shelled" , not sure though ? IF that is the case, just replace Urias with Stroman with my original comment, same applies to him as well. I don't think he leaves the Dodgers and it is kind of almost the Cubs have to sign Ohtani this offseason and do whatever it takes. They Need a ACE and middle of the order serious power threat in the middle of the order so badly.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2023 16:35:20 GMT -5
Correct, it was just a bad game it happens throughout the season. Stroman is usually as dependable as it gets. I think he was talking about Urias with that comment since it said "we want the only ace we shelled" , not sure though ? That's right I meant Urias when we destroyed the Dodgers 13-0.
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Post by Mike on May 18, 2023 19:53:39 GMT -5
MLB Network pundits were saying Ohtani AAV will be 60+. I think the highest we go is 47.5, that'd be Heyward (22.5) and Stroman (25). But I think Happ and Hoerner extensions were already allocated for this. If you add Hendricks' salary and buy him out, that adds 14 to get you over the 60 mark. Sheesh.
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Post by fine09 on May 19, 2023 4:49:06 GMT -5
Correct, it was just a bad game it happens throughout the season. Stroman is usually as dependable as it gets. I think he was talking about Urias with that comment since it said "we want the only ace we shelled" , not sure though ? Correct. Then he just got smacked around by the Cardinals last night..
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Post by fine09 on May 19, 2023 4:51:44 GMT -5
MLB Network pundits were saying Ohtani AAV will be 60+. I think the highest we go is 47.5, that'd be Heyward (22.5) and Stroman (25). But I think Happ and Hoerner extensions were already allocated for this. If you add Hendricks' salary and buy him out, that adds 14 to get you over the 60 mark. Sheesh. Only way I see the Cubs in at 60 mil per is for a 4 to 5 year deal & he’ll want 8 to 10 for sure - but no way at 60 mil per..
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Post by kfidd on May 19, 2023 8:44:12 GMT -5
I’d be all for Urias and I said this past offseason that I could see a path where Matt Chapman makes sense, but for me everything comes after a legitimate and hard push for Ohtani in Cubbie blue. He costs 50m+ per season? Don’t care. He checks the two biggest boxes the Cubs have empty at the moment: #1 ace and #3 hitter.
We don’t need to go over the numbers. We know how good Ohtani is. Yes it’s a lot of money tied into one player and yes that player getting injured at any point would really blow chunks. But I’ve always held the opinion that every player is capable of getting injured and unless you are a proven injury prone player (deGrom comes to mind) it’s not worth stressing about.
The Cubs are young and have a farm system ready to provide a steady stream of quality talent. They are in a huge market. They can afford to compete with the Dodgers and Mutts for his services. We may not get him in the end but I’d be very frustrated to learn we bowed out of the bidding war at a super early stage because of $$$.
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