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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Sept 27, 2023 10:28:45 GMT -5
I guess for me when I think of "contender" I think of a championship level team. Holy shit , you really trying to spin it that way now? Come on dude, this is why some people throw the troll monicker at you ( which I defend you by the way ) Just stop already
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Post by rvn11 on Sept 27, 2023 10:58:01 GMT -5
Good grief guys. Told you so is a good look for no one.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Sept 27, 2023 13:34:00 GMT -5
You know what's funny? I'm the troll, yet have you seen the comments in game day threads vs just regular threads? You guys are brutal in game day threads, trashing this team every time something goes wrong, yet because the Cubs are just barely getting by as the last or 2nd wild card team we have to argue semantics about the word "contender"?
I miss the old board, original Cubs board.
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Post by foolforthecity on Sept 27, 2023 13:35:52 GMT -5
You know what's funny? I'm the troll, yet have you seen the comments in game day threads vs just regular threads? You guys are brutal in game day threads, trashing this team every time something goes wrong, yet because the Cubs are just barely getting by as the last or 2nd wild card team we have to argue semantics about the word "contender"? I miss the old board, original Cubs board. Really? The old board at Cubs.com was a dumpster fire. There was more trolls there than good posters.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Sept 27, 2023 13:58:10 GMT -5
And what's this board? If you don't agree with everything the Cubs do you're a troll? I'm labeled a troll because I expect more than a 7-8 hole type hitter from our 177 million dollar free agent? For 177 million dollars he should be hitting 3rd or 4th.
This team is not a contender. It's a potential playoff team, but NOT a contender. This teams 2023 success was based on Bellinger's come back. What happens to this team if he prices himself out? What happens to this team if some team decides Bellinger is worth 300+ million? I'm sure we know.
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Post by batman66 on Sept 27, 2023 14:19:37 GMT -5
You know what's funny? I'm the troll, yet have you seen the comments in game day threads vs just regular threads? You guys are brutal in game day threads, trashing this team every time something goes wrong, yet because the Cubs are just barely getting by as the last or 2nd wild card team we have to argue semantics about the word "contender"? I miss the old board, original Cubs board. First of all I defend you when people say that , I don't see you as one in any way shape or form. And there are no "semantics" WebThe meaning of CONTENDER is one that contends; especially : a competitor for a championship or high honor. 99.9 % of the people on here I would say define a contender as a team that is competing for a playoff spot until the later part of a season , or if one wants to get even firmer on the definition it would be is a playoff team , not one that is "championship level" . if that's the case then there are only a few contenders in the entire sport.
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Post by batman66 on Sept 27, 2023 14:24:28 GMT -5
And what's this board? If you don't agree with everything the Cubs do you're a troll? I'm labeled a troll because I expect more than a 7-8 hole type hitter from our 177 million dollar free agent? For 177 million dollars he should be hitting 3rd or 4th. This team is not a contender. It's a potential playoff team, but NOT a contender. This teams 2023 success was based on Bellinger's come back. What happens to this team if he prices himself out? What happens to this team if some team decides Bellinger is worth 300+ million? I'm sure we know. Yet you wanted a 300 million one who's more of an 8-9 hole producer this season . Funny how at one point not so long ago you didn't even consider spending 177 million as a lot , but now it's too much for a guy who's one of the best all around SS's in the game. There is value in other things in baseball other than wRC+ , how the hell did you ever judge players before that made up projected stat became a thing ?
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Post by bryzzobrist on Sept 27, 2023 14:26:04 GMT -5
And what's this board? If you don't agree with everything the Cubs do you're a troll? I'm labeled a troll because I expect more than a 7-8 hole type hitter from our 177 million dollar free agent? For 177 million dollars he should be hitting 3rd or 4th. This team is not a contender. It's a potential playoff team, but NOT a contender. This teams 2023 success was based on Bellinger's come back. What happens to this team if he prices himself out? What happens to this team if some team decides Bellinger is worth 300+ million? I'm sure we know. Nothing came from not agreeing with everything the Cubs do, it's from being argumentative and stubborn as a mule and thinking that anyone who doesn't share your unconventional opinions is just a __________.
If Belli doesn't sign back up with the Cubbies, do you think the Cubs will not sign or trade for any other free agents in the offseason, and we'll just play on with the same team minus Belli next season?
Belli's predicted to sign for much much less than 300m...
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Post by thisbuds4u on Sept 27, 2023 14:59:16 GMT -5
And what's this board? If you don't agree with everything the Cubs do you're a troll? I'm labeled a troll because I expect more than a 7-8 hole type hitter from our 177 million dollar free agent? For 177 million dollars he should be hitting 3rd or 4th. This team is not a contender. It's a potential playoff team, but NOT a contender. This teams 2023 success was based on Bellinger's come back. What happens to this team if he prices himself out? What happens to this team if some team decides Bellinger is worth 300+ million? I'm sure we know. Nothing came from not agreeing with everything the Cubs do, it's from being argumentative and stubborn as a mule and thinking that anyone who doesn't share your unconventional opinions is just a __________.
If Belli doesn't sign back up with the Cubbies, do you think the Cubs will not sign or trade for any other free agents in the offseason, and we'll just play on with the same team minus Belli next season?
Belli's predicted to sign for much much less than 300m...
To be honest, letting the kids play is not a bad idea. It's working for teams like the Reds, O's and D-Backs. That's why I don't get overly excited about the Cubs minor league system. These prospects don't get a real chance to play. Mervis and Amaya should not have been blocked by players like Hosmer, Mancini and Barnhart. Did the Cubs call up PCA to bunt and pinch run? The Cubs need a manager who can develop young players at the Major league level and I don't believe Ross is the guy to do it.
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Post by Cubtastic on Sept 27, 2023 15:20:42 GMT -5
And what's this board? If you don't agree with everything the Cubs do you're a troll? I'm labeled a troll because I expect more than a 7-8 hole type hitter from our 177 million dollar free agent? For 177 million dollars he should be hitting 3rd or 4th. This team is not a contender. It's a potential playoff team, but NOT a contender. This teams 2023 success was based on Bellinger's come back. What happens to this team if he prices himself out? What happens to this team if some team decides Bellinger is worth 300+ million? I'm sure we know. Dude don't worry about what a few people think, who cares, just give your takes and tell the overly sensitive to go pound sand.
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Post by okeecub on Sept 27, 2023 15:28:12 GMT -5
You know what's funny? I'm the troll, yet have you seen the comments in game day threads vs just regular threads? You guys are brutal in game day threads, trashing this team every time something goes wrong, yet because the Cubs are just barely getting by as the last or 2nd wild card team we have to argue semantics about the word "contender"? I miss the old board, original Cubs board. Really? The old board at Cubs.com was a dumpster fire. There was more trolls there than good posters. is that the one accessible through Cubs website I used to read occasionally back in 2015/16? The Clinton versus Trump forum that every now and then drifted off topic to talk about something to do with baseball
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Post by irishcubfan on Sept 27, 2023 15:31:41 GMT -5
You know what's funny? I'm the troll, yet have you seen the comments in game day threads vs just regular threads? You guys are brutal in game day threads, trashing this team every time something goes wrong, yet because the Cubs are just barely getting by as the last or 2nd wild card team we have to argue semantics about the word "contender"? I miss the old board, original Cubs board. First of all I defend you when people say that , I don't see you as one in any way shape or form. And there are no "semantics" WebThe meaning of CONTENDER is one that contends; especially : a competitor for a championship or high honor. 99.9 % of the people on here I would say define a contender as a team that is competing for a playoff spot until the later part of a season , or if one wants to get even firmer on the definition it would be is a playoff team , not one that is "championship level" . if that's the case then there are only a few contenders in the entire sport. Your last sentence is correct, only a few true contenders each year and at times outliers like the Phillies last year with two aces and a pen. The Cubs are not true contenders, if they were, people would not be accepting a first round playoff exit as a successful season or an 84 win season as a success. The Cubs should be in the playoffs because frankly there are not many good teams and they are one of the best six teams out of 15. If they had a better manager they would not be on the bubble of the playoffs. So many teams make the playoffs and it is so watered down.
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Post by irishcubfan on Sept 27, 2023 15:40:00 GMT -5
Cubs fans are going to be disappointed when Bellinger walks and the move to replace is Bader to pair with Tauchman because Ross is still the manager. Instead of letting PCA or Canario develop and obtain at bats at the MLB level they will delay and go with that outfield tandem for two months until they deem PCA/Canario ready.
People get excited about Shaw or whatever prospects but the wrong manager is in place and he ultimately will delay the next Cubs contending team because of the manager being so stubborn set in his ways. Once Ross has an opinion on a player it is very difficult to change his mind.
How long did it take Happ to move him out of the three spot against a righty? Suzuki on fire for a month and a half and it took forever to move him up.
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Post by kfidd on Sept 27, 2023 16:11:01 GMT -5
This is rebuild vs retool all over again. The Cubs are contending for a playoff spot and that’s all that matters for once you’ve punched that ticket, anything can happen.
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Post by trav768 on Sept 27, 2023 17:16:47 GMT -5
a team has to contend for a playoff spot before they can contend for a world series.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Sept 27, 2023 20:11:43 GMT -5
So many looooong paragraphs about nothing.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Sept 27, 2023 20:12:04 GMT -5
a team has to contend for a playoff spot before they can contend for a world series. so there’s a difference right?
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Sept 27, 2023 20:12:55 GMT -5
Cubs fans are going to be disappointed when Bellinger walks and the move to replace is Bader to pair with Tauchman because Ross is still the manager. Instead of letting PCA or Canario develop and obtain at bats at the MLB level they will delay and go with that outfield tandem for two months until they deem PCA/Canario ready. People get excited about Shaw or whatever prospects but the wrong manager is in place and he ultimately will delay the next Cubs contending team because of the manager being so stubborn set in his ways. Once Ross has an opinion on a player it is very difficult to change his mind. How long did it take Happ to move him out of the three spot against a righty? Suzuki on fire for a month and a half and it took forever to move him up. homers don’t want to hear that
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Post by trav768 on Sept 27, 2023 20:14:48 GMT -5
a team has to contend for a playoff spot before they can contend for a world series. so there’s a difference right? what's the difference? they're contending for a playoff spot right now. you got to get in dam playoffs to get a chance at world series
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Post by batman66 on Sept 28, 2023 9:20:01 GMT -5
a team has to contend for a playoff spot before they can contend for a world series. so there’s a difference right? Look at the title of YOUR thread . Does it say World Series contending team or contending team ? So there is a difference right ?
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