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Post by ddevonb on Jul 10, 2019 23:29:09 GMT -5
There has to be some truth to that, I do think they had the payroll to sign Kimbrel even if Zobrist was still playing, BUT they would have no room left for mid season deals, so now the longer Zobrist is out the more money the team saves and can use toward deadline deals. So techicaly Theo can say the Kimbrel signing has nothing to do with Zobrist situation and be telling the truth. I think I agree with this. I think it's more baseball related than family related, not to knock Zobrist, but if he comes back around 9/1 then that's no coincidence. Also, an addition of Merrifield, if the Cubs pulled that off, would have no impact on Zobrist because Merrifield plays OF as well. I think it 100% family related. |
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 16, 2019 9:32:27 GMT -5
I think I agree with this. I think it's more baseball related than family related, not to knock Zobrist, but if he comes back around 9/1 then that's no coincidence. Also, an addition of Merrifield, if the Cubs pulled that off, would have no impact on Zobrist because Merrifield plays OF as well. I think it 100% family related. I think it was originally, I think it no longer is at this point. |
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 19, 2019 11:25:05 GMT -5
Per Theo: a decision will be made very soon regarding Ben. Ben is aware and knows the Cubs either will count on him this year or move on without him.
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Post by rvn11 on Jul 19, 2019 11:39:48 GMT -5
Man, every time this thread is bumped I half expect some juicy news. I'm starting to think he's done for the season, too hard to come back at this point and there's no place to get him at bats at the moment. Such an odd situation.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 19, 2019 11:44:49 GMT -5
Theo said the Cubs are not counting on a return.
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Post by skokiejoe on Jul 19, 2019 11:51:56 GMT -5
Theo said the Cubs are not counting on a return. No surprise. |
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Post by fine09 on Jul 19, 2019 12:16:42 GMT -5
Theo said the Cubs are not counting on a return. No surprise. At his age I don't know that he could get ready "enough" to be better than the next man up. I assume that when he was off that he was so consumed with dealing with the many emotions that the last thing he was doing was working out a couple hours each day when the kids are out of school. This is very sad for not only the Cubs but for Ben & he really didn't deserve that at all.. |
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 19, 2019 12:25:07 GMT -5
I don’t mean to sound cold hearted here, but..... do you all know the divorce rate in America? Ben’s absence seemed excessive to me. Thousands of families go through this and I have never ever heard of anyone taking this much time off of work. It doesn’t effect me at all personally so I’m not mad about it, but just seems exaggerated IMO
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Post by symposiumx on Jul 19, 2019 12:50:22 GMT -5
I don’t mean to sound cold hearted here, but..... do you all know the divorce rate in America? Ben’s absence seemed excessive to me. Thousands of families go through this and I have never ever heard of anyone taking this much time off of work. It doesn’t effect me at all personally so I’m not mad about it, but just seems exaggerated IMO It’s roughly 50% for America. Seems longer than a usual leave of absence, but I try not confuse what seems normal or common occurance, and apply it to individual situations. Who knows, maybe this hit deeper to Ben that others we have known going through a divorce. I just have to trust that Ben took the amount of time he felt that he needed. |
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Post by TheChico on Jul 19, 2019 13:01:24 GMT -5
I don’t mean to sound cold hearted here, but..... do you all know the divorce rate in America? Ben’s absence seemed excessive to me. Thousands of families go through this and I have never ever heard of anyone taking this much time off of work. It doesn’t effect me at all personally so I’m not mad about it, but just seems exaggerated IMO It’s roughly 50% for America. Seems longer than a usual leave of absence, but I try not confuse what seems normal or common occurance, and apply it to individual situations. Who knows, maybe this hit deeper to Ben that others we have known going through a divorce. I just have to trust that Ben took the amount of time he felt that he needed. There could be a lot more going on then we know too. My guess, is Zobrist told the FO he is retiring a while back but FO talked him into going on the restricted list and take all the time he needs up to the trade deadline and if he still feels the same way then go ahead and retire. FO really has nothing to lose by doing that and gives Zobrist time to change his mind if he wants. |
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Post by jerm42991 on Jul 19, 2019 13:09:47 GMT -5
I don’t mean to sound cold hearted here, but..... do you all know the divorce rate in America? Ben’s absence seemed excessive to me. Thousands of families go through this and I have never ever heard of anyone taking this much time off of work. It doesn’t effect me at all personally so I’m not mad about it, but just seems exaggerated IMO As I said before 99% of those people can’t afford to not go back to work. You cant take a normal american and apply their status to a guy who has made 70M+ in their life |
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 19, 2019 14:32:16 GMT -5
I don’t mean to sound cold hearted here, but..... do you all know the divorce rate in America? Ben’s absence seemed excessive to me. Thousands of families go through this and I have never ever heard of anyone taking this much time off of work. It doesn’t effect me at all personally so I’m not mad about it, but just seems exaggerated IMO As I said before 99% of those people can’t afford to not go back to work. You cant take a normal american and apply their status to a guy who has made 70M+ in their life I'm sorry, but a divorce, separation, custody battle, etc, doesn't require daily needs. I've been there, including a custody battle for my now 15 year old son who I had won custody for back when he was 6 years old. I've been there, granted, everyone is different and I guess some wounds dig deep, still seems really really long and I don't have his financials, but I never felt like I needed to stop working..... as another poster said, maybe Ben just doesn't want to play and the Cubs are the one's keeping the door open. That's fine. |
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Post by C-Horse14 on Jul 19, 2019 20:09:16 GMT -5
I say hire Ben as a special coach, maybe initially for a few days a week at Iowa.
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Post by thisbuds4u on Jul 20, 2019 3:10:03 GMT -5
As I said before 99% of those people can’t afford to not go back to work. You cant take a normal american and apply their status to a guy who has made 70M+ in their life I'm sorry, but a divorce, separation, custody battle, etc, doesn't require daily needs. I've been there, including a custody battle for my now 15 year old son who I had won custody for back when he was 6 years old. I've been there, granted, everyone is different and I guess some wounds dig deep, still seems really really long and I don't have his financials, but I never felt like I needed to stop working..... as another poster said, maybe Ben just doesn't want to play and the Cubs are the one's keeping the door open. That's fine. I guess a lot of it depends who caused the divorce. In this case, it appears the wife was guilty. She has had time to mentally and legally prepare for what will happen. I believe Ben was blind-sided by the situation. Also a divorce may not require "daily needs" but children do. |
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 20, 2019 7:27:08 GMT -5
As I said before 99% of those people can’t afford to not go back to work. You cant take a normal american and apply their status to a guy who has made 70M+ in their life I'm sorry, but a divorce, separation, custody battle, etc, doesn't require daily needs. I've been there, including a custody battle for my now 15 year old son who I had won custody for back when he was 6 years old. I've been there, granted, everyone is different and I guess some wounds dig deep, still seems really really long and I don't have his financials, but I never felt like I needed to stop working..... as another poster said, maybe Ben just doesn't want to play and the Cubs are the one's keeping the door open. That's fine. Its really tough to say without knowing all the information in the situation and as you said each situation is different.Maybe he is just done mentally and doesnt have the urge/fire the play right now.The one thing is hes at the end of his career I would think he would want to go out on his terms and not like this. |
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Post by fine09 on Jul 20, 2019 9:09:37 GMT -5
As I said before 99% of those people can’t afford to not go back to work. You cant take a normal american and apply their status to a guy who has made 70M+ in their life I'm sorry, but a divorce, separation, custody battle, etc, doesn't require daily needs. I've been there, including a custody battle for my now 15 year old son who I had won custody for back when he was 6 years old. I've been there, granted, everyone is different and I guess some wounds dig deep, still seems really really long and I don't have his financials, but I never felt like I needed to stop working..... as another poster said, maybe Ben just doesn't want to play and the Cubs are the one's keeping the door open. That's fine. Ben doesn’t have your typical 9 to 5 job & when you aren’t home 1/2 the summer it lessens your time spent with the kids AND if he is suing for custody he really needs to be there every day. Keep in mind he’s been gone for 1/4 of the kids lives so with there being no financial situation I completely understand what he’s doing. To each their own |
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Post by Reverency on Jul 20, 2019 11:29:40 GMT -5
No one knows exactly what's going on (especially me), but as I've said before, two parties filing in two different states present legal complications that have to be resolved FIRST. The family owns residences in both Chicago and Tennessee, and ANY time Zo spends in Chicago right now, gives Juliana's filing more standing. Illinois is a complete no-fault state, while Tennessee permits extenuating circumstances (including marital misconduct) to be considered. The rate of divorce among baseball players is higher than the national average, and I don't recall any other baseball divorces requiring this kind of time and effort on the part of the player, but with Ben nearing retirement, with minor children and lots of assets involved, I'm sure this all figures into the complexity of the situation. illinoislawforyou.com/illinois-divorce/competing-divorce-jurisdiction-ben-zobrist-divorce/ Personally, I am totally uninterested in the details, but I would have thought that Zobrist wouldn't leave the front office and the team just hanging there wondering what's going on. Lawyers and courts do have a reputation for letting things drag on. |
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Post by jerm42991 on Jul 20, 2019 11:33:45 GMT -5
No one knows exactly what's going on (especially me), but as I've said before, two parties filing in two different states present legal complications that have to be resolved FIRST. The family owns residences in both Chicago and Tennessee, and ANY time Zo spends in Chicago right now, gives Juliana's filing more standing. Illinois is a complete no-fault state, while Tennessee permits extenuating circumstances (including marital misconduct) to be considered. The rate of divorce among baseball players is higher than the national average, and I don't recall any other baseball divorces requiring this kind of time and effort on the part of the player, but with Ben nearing retirement, with minor children and lots of assets involved, I'm sure this all figures into the complexity of the situation. illinoislawforyou.com/illinois-divorce/competing-divorce-jurisdiction-ben-zobrist-divorce/ Personally, I am totally uninterested in the details, but I would have thought that Zobrist wouldn't leave the front office and the team just hanging there wondering what's going on. Lawyers and courts do have a reputation for letting things drag on. Why do you assume Theo hasn’t been in communication and doesn’f know whats going on? Just because we don’t know whats going on, doesnt mean they dont |
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Post by trav768 on Jul 20, 2019 12:06:47 GMT -5
No one knows exactly what's going on (especially me), but as I've said before, two parties filing in two different states present legal complications that have to be resolved FIRST. The family owns residences in both Chicago and Tennessee, and ANY time Zo spends in Chicago right now, gives Juliana's filing more standing. Illinois is a complete no-fault state, while Tennessee permits extenuating circumstances (including marital misconduct) to be considered. The rate of divorce among baseball players is higher than the national average, and I don't recall any other baseball divorces requiring this kind of time and effort on the part of the player, but with Ben nearing retirement, with minor children and lots of assets involved, I'm sure this all figures into the complexity of the situation. illinoislawforyou.com/illinois-divorce/competing-divorce-jurisdiction-ben-zobrist-divorce/ Personally, I am totally uninterested in the details, but I would have thought that Zobrist wouldn't leave the front office and the team just hanging there wondering what's going on. Lawyers and courts do have a reputation for letting things drag on. Why do you assume Theo hasn’t been in communication and doesn’f know whats going on? Just because we don’t know whats going on, doesnt mean they dont all I read is Theo and Joe been texting Ben. Joe not as much as he wants to, but yes they been texting back and forth. |
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Post by Reverency on Jul 20, 2019 14:30:45 GMT -5
No one knows exactly what's going on (especially me), but as I've said before, two parties filing in two different states present legal complications that have to be resolved FIRST. The family owns residences in both Chicago and Tennessee, and ANY time Zo spends in Chicago right now, gives Juliana's filing more standing. Illinois is a complete no-fault state, while Tennessee permits extenuating circumstances (including marital misconduct) to be considered. The rate of divorce among baseball players is higher than the national average, and I don't recall any other baseball divorces requiring this kind of time and effort on the part of the player, but with Ben nearing retirement, with minor children and lots of assets involved, I'm sure this all figures into the complexity of the situation. illinoislawforyou.com/illinois-divorce/competing-divorce-jurisdiction-ben-zobrist-divorce/ Personally, I am totally uninterested in the details, but I would have thought that Zobrist wouldn't leave the front office and the team just hanging there wondering what's going on. Lawyers and courts do have a reputation for letting things drag on. Why do you assume Theo hasn’t been in communication and doesn’f know whats going on? Just because we don’t know whats going on, doesnt mean they dont I don't assume that at all -- I said "I would have thought that Zobrist WOULDN'T leave the front office and the team hanging." My further comment tended to blame lawyers and courts. |
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