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Post by pablovi on Jul 8, 2016 20:50:06 GMT -5
Don't trade this season. They have so many things that need fixing right now, that it's not worth it. Wait till the offseason and get what you need. The hitting and starting pitching need help and fixing as well. The BP alone will not do it.
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Post by jsnhbe1 on Jul 8, 2016 20:53:30 GMT -5
They're not bad. Everything is wrong just like everything was right. It's not going to last. The starting pitching is top 5 just like last season. The offense is hampered by injuries. When healthy they'll come around. Only the bullpen NEEDS fixed. Sure, anitjer starting pitcher or high average guy would be great but not needed. The bullpen is wretched, however.
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Post by pablovi on Jul 8, 2016 20:58:24 GMT -5
They're not bad. Everything is wrong just like everything was right. It's not going to last. The starting pitching is top 5 just like last season. The offense is hampered by injuries. When healthy they'll come around. Only the bullpen NEEDS fixed. Sure, anitjer starting pitcher or high average guy would be great but not needed. The bullpen is wretched, however. That's what you think, I think otherwise... Arrieta will have an above 3 ERA. Lester a 3.5 or close to that, Hammel a high 3. They will not be a top 5 rotation. They will pitch at around their career averages. And the hitting with Heyward not working and Zobrist and Fowler close to their career averages is not that good. They rely too much on power. And I'm not saying they're bad, just not the best or even 2nd best team in the NL. So if you're not winning it all, why overpay?
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 8, 2016 21:01:49 GMT -5
>They rely too much on power.>
I think thats false but i coild be wrong jsut glanced at it a few days ago if you look at the numbers.Where do they rank in the lg % of runs scored via HR?
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Post by pablovi on Jul 8, 2016 21:03:19 GMT -5
>They rely too much on power.> I think thats false but i coild be wrong jsut glanced at it a few days ago if you look at the numbers.Where do they rank in the lg % of runs scored via HR? I don't know, I'm on my cellphone on the street, but it does feel that they mostly score that way, specially when they win. And I not only meant HR, but they don't hit for contact and are not as patient anymore.
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 8, 2016 21:03:57 GMT -5
They're not bad. Everything is wrong just like everything was right. It's not going to last. The starting pitching is top 5 just like last season. The offense is hampered by injuries. When healthy they'll come around. Only the bullpen NEEDS fixed. Sure, anitjer starting pitcher or high average guy would be great but not needed. The bullpen is wretched, however. That's what you think, I think otherwise... Arrieta will have an above 3 ERA. Lester a 3.5 or close to that, Hammel a high 3. They will not be a top 5 rotation. They will pitch at around their career averages. And the hitting with Heyward not working and Zobrist and Fowler close to their career averages is not that good. They rely too much on power. And I'm not saying they're bad, just not the best or even 2nd best team in the NL. So if you're not winning it all, why overpay? Reason because if you get to playoffs any team can win oh and they will get hot again that is for sure.They need bullpen help they have leads going into the 7th what 5-6 times in the last 2 weeks that they blew that changes everything??
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Post by pablovi on Jul 8, 2016 21:07:50 GMT -5
That's what you think, I think otherwise... Arrieta will have an above 3 ERA. Lester a 3.5 or close to that, Hammel a high 3. They will not be a top 5 rotation. They will pitch at around their career averages. And the hitting with Heyward not working and Zobrist and Fowler close to their career averages is not that good. They rely too much on power. And I'm not saying they're bad, just not the best or even 2nd best team in the NL. So if you're not winning it all, why overpay? Reason because if you get to playoffs any team can win oh and they will get hot again that is for sure.They need bullpen help they have leads going into the 7th what 5-6 times in the last 2 weeks that they blew that changes everything?? For example yesterday, yeah, the closer blow the save... But still, the pitching staff only gave up 3 runs in 9 innings! That's what a top pitching staff does ever game. So it wasn't on them, it was on the offense that couldn't score more than 3 runs in 11 innings against one of the worst teams in the league. And had 3 innings with two men on and no outs and could score a single run.
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 8, 2016 21:08:07 GMT -5
>They rely too much on power.> I think thats false but i coild be wrong jsut glanced at it a few days ago if you look at the numbers.Where do they rank in the lg % of runs scored via HR? I don't know, I'm on my cellphone on the street, but it does feel that they mostly score that way, specially when they win. And I not only meant HR, but they don't hit for contact and are not as patient anymore. Cant find the total stats all i could find was an article May 7th that said the Mets were #1,TB #2 and Balt #3 but that was a month ago.
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Post by jsnhbe1 on Jul 8, 2016 21:34:42 GMT -5
ff to pick up a couple fellas in new york. Be back in 5/6 days.
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 9, 2016 15:02:19 GMT -5
Reason because if you get to playoffs any team can win oh and they will get hot again that is for sure.They need bullpen help they have leads going into the 7th what 5-6 times in the last 2 weeks that they blew that changes everything?? For example yesterday, yeah, the closer blow the save... But still, the pitching staff only gave up 3 runs in 9 innings! That's what a top pitching staff does ever game. So it wasn't on them, it was on the offense that couldn't score more than 3 runs in 11 innings against one of the worst teams in the league. And had 3 innings with two men on and no outs and could score a single run. Disagree when you give the pitching the lead in the 7th or later they need to hold onto it.Now granted of late they have had many opportunities with risp they have failed on.The Cubs are 2nd in runs scored too many blown games in the last few weeks.
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Post by pablovi on Jul 9, 2016 15:16:54 GMT -5
For example yesterday, yeah, the closer blow the save... But still, the pitching staff only gave up 3 runs in 9 innings! That's what a top pitching staff does ever game. So it wasn't on them, it was on the offense that couldn't score more than 3 runs in 11 innings against one of the worst teams in the league. And had 3 innings with two men on and no outs and could score a single run. Disagree when you give the pitching the lead in the 7th or later they need to hold onto it.Now granted of late they have had many opportunities with risp they have failed on.The Cubs are 2nd in runs scored too many blown games in the last few weeks. The best BP in the MLB will have an ERA or around 3 at the end of the year. That means they give up 3 runs every 9 innings, or 1 every 3. If you give a 1 run lead in the 7, they will most likely give up the lead. And the Cubs are indeed second in runs scored, but they have been declining every month, they were second in April, 7th in May, 10th in June and are 18th in July. It's not only the BP the offense is also not working right now.
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 9, 2016 15:38:10 GMT -5
Right I agree that the whole team is,been down but when the offense gives the bullpen the lead 7th or later they need to hold it.This why I want a lock down bullpen arm or 2.Those 3-5 games they blew are big the last few weeks.
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 9, 2016 15:39:52 GMT -5
So how are they still 2nd if they were 7th,10th and 18th something doesn't sound right.Are you sure your months are correct?
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Post by pablovi on Jul 9, 2016 15:50:20 GMT -5
So how are they still 2nd if they were 7th,10th and 18th something doesn't sound right.Are you sure your months are correct? You can check for yourself, that's June, and just choose another month in the splits tab. espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/42About the HR's I had to count all the runs scored by HR in June and it was 68, they scored 140 runs that month, so that's half the runs scored are by HR's I don't know the average in the MLB, but it does sound like a lot.
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 9, 2016 15:55:39 GMT -5
So how are they still 2nd if they were 7th,10th and 18th something doesn't sound right.Are you sure your months are correct? You can check for yourself, that's June, and just choose another month in the splits tab. espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/42About the HR's I had to count all the runs scored by HR in June and it was 68, they scored 140 runs that month, so that's half the runs scored are by HR's I don't know the average in the MLB, but it does sound like a lot. The leaders May 8th were all over 50% I think they 55%,53%,52% the Cubs,are under 50%
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 9, 2016 15:59:20 GMT -5
I see it but it's weird that they can be that low and still be 2nd that must mean the other teams that were up there flipped and at the same time weren't scoring as much
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 9, 2016 16:05:42 GMT -5
It looks like Pitt and Cards also went way far backwards according to that link.
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Post by pablovi on Jul 9, 2016 16:08:42 GMT -5
You can check for yourself, that's June, and just choose another month in the splits tab. espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/42About the HR's I had to count all the runs scored by HR in June and it was 68, they scored 140 runs that month, so that's half the runs scored are by HR's I don't know the average in the MLB, but it does sound like a lot. The leaders May 8th were all over 50% I think they 55%,53%,52% the Cubs,are under 50% You mean or runs scored by HR's? Where did you get that stat? I had to manually count the runs for the Cubs in June.
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 9, 2016 16:13:35 GMT -5
The leaders May 8th were all over 50% I think they 55%,53%,52% the Cubs,are under 50% You mean or runs scored by HR's? Where did you get that stat? I had to manually count the runs for the Cubs in June. There was an article on it May 8th otherwise I can't find anything.Also learned something searching for it.That the percentage of runs off hrs goes up in the playoffs from the regular season not down like some would think.Kind of debunks the small in the playoffs theory.
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Post by bbuck22 on Jul 9, 2016 16:19:09 GMT -5
I just brought the article back up May 7th Mets 55%,TB 54%,Balt 52% it said that's from the Elias Sports Bureau maybe they have them all up to date if we go there and have access.
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