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Post by batman66 on Jul 22, 2024 19:03:51 GMT -5
<<They did nothing to improve on 2023>> That Imanaga guy really sucks doesn't he ? Too much time spent wasted on Ohtani when they had no chance , he was never leaving So Cal. They really didn't really need to make a lot more moves than they did , if guys were having even half way decent seasons they'd be right in the mix. oh please… the Cubs got lucky with Shota, stop that shit. Stop with the excuses already. This franchise is just like Jerry’s Bulls. The owner got his ship(s). He’s done. So let me get this straight , when they sign one of the top rated free agents and he actually ends up being good , they "got lucky" ? Do you even listen to yourself some of the time? SMH come on dude, you're better than this.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 22, 2024 19:05:59 GMT -5
Demar Derozen was good on a shitty team took. No one expected Shota to be this good and he was paid like it, otherwise he’s getting Yamamoto money. That’s fine and good for the Cubs.
You hate when people are critical of Tommy boy and Dead Jed. This franchise is a joke.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 22, 2024 19:07:51 GMT -5
No playoffs until at least 2027. After they sell what they have this offseason and then start letting guys contracts expire in the next 2 years, this team is toast.
No direction. They’re praying to be the Rays and have it all come out of the farm system.
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Post by batman66 on Jul 22, 2024 19:12:21 GMT -5
No playoffs until at least 2027. After they sell what they have this offseason and then start letting guys contracts expire in the next 2 years, this team is toast. No direction. They’re praying to be the Rays and have it all come out of the farm system. This is what he actually said , but you go by what Jesse posted. “The next seven games obviously matter,” Hoyer said. “Certainly, we saw what could happen last year. So you never firmly plant your feet. You have to be able to be nimble. I think where we are right now, I would say that moves only for ‘24 – I think unless things change over the next week, I think we probably won’t do a lot of moves that only help us for this year. If moves help us in ’25 and beyond – I think we’re still exceptionally well-positioned – I think that’s what our focus will be. But like just helping in ’24, I think that probably won’t be our focus unless things change dramatically.”
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Jul 22, 2024 23:24:54 GMT -5
The Cubs are 10-5 in their last 15 Vs the Phillies, Angels, Orioles, Cardinals, DBacks & Brewers.
10-5... (.667) With the #1 ERA and the #1 Bullpen ERA in July
You wanna quit? QUIT
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Post by 2mileshighillini on Jul 23, 2024 0:26:55 GMT -5
Cubs - Last 15 (10-5)
+4 Brewers +3.5 Padres +3.5 Giants +3 Braves +3 Reds +2.5 Nationals +2 Cardinals +1 DBacks +1 Mets +0 Pirates
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Post by thisbuds4u on Jul 23, 2024 3:55:35 GMT -5
Taillon, Neris, Smyly, and Hendricks represent 51.5M in payroll. Brown (IL-necks are tricky), Wesneski (just hit IL), Kilian (rehab starts), and up-and-comers like Noland and Birdsell can fill up the rotation for the rest of the year. Hodge and Bigge have starter experience, so they could even piggyback. Neris, Smyly and Hendricks , Tauchman , Wisdon should all be moved , not going to get a whole lot back though other than salary relief but that's ok. Taillon should only be moved if he brings a players that's going to be part of the near future. I'm not against trading him , like others have mentioned he might be at a high sell point , but I don't want it to be to just save money and I don't want it to be for A ball prospects. It should be for somebody who can help no later than 2025 or else just keep him , you have a better chance of winning with him in the middle of your rotation the next two seasons with the way these guys get injured you don't want it to get to the point you need to rely on the younger arms. Hendricks would have to agree to a trade because of the 5/10 year rule.
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Post by thisbuds4u on Jul 23, 2024 4:09:27 GMT -5
The Cubs do have a young catching prospect in Ballesteros. Lots of questions if he can be an everyday catcher defensively though. His bat should not doubt play at the major league level but he seems more destined to be a DH and part time catcher than a guy they put behind the plate 4-5 times a week. Considering the fact that he's only 20 yrs. old I believe he can improve. I'm not concerned about his ability to throw out baserunners because with the rule changes and the inability of pitchers holding runners close, catchers don't have much of a chance.
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Post by kfidd on Jul 23, 2024 4:54:55 GMT -5
Lots of questions if he can be an everyday catcher defensively though. His bat should not doubt play at the major league level but he seems more destined to be a DH and part time catcher than a guy they put behind the plate 4-5 times a week. Considering the fact that he's only 20 yrs. old I believe he can improve. I'm not concerned about his ability to throw out baserunners because with the rule changes and the inability of pitchers holding runners close, catchers don't have much of a chance. I don’t think it’s just about his throwing ability. With that body type he isn’t nimble in the slightest back there. He is a liability defensively. I’m basing that off limited video I have seen but if the idea was the Cubs wanted to prioritize defense behind the dish then he is the farthest thing from it and that would be quite the 180 to pull in just a couple seasons past Contreras and the narrative surrounding his departure. The question should be three-fold: - Do they believe Ballesteros can improve defensively behind the plate? - How long are they willing to give him to make those improvements when he’s so far behind defensively and catchers typically take a long time to develop that part of their game? - Is it worth holding what appears to be a very MLB ready bat down just for the chance he can become a capable everyday catcher X years down the line? In my opinion there is nothing wrong with designating him as the emergency catcher where he can make slow, modest improvements in that part of his game while he prioritizes his offense at the big league level. I think if you have a MLB ready bat, especially at such a young age, you bring him up and let him play. The worst thing that could happen is holding him back for a couple years to work on his catching game only to find out it isn’t in the cards and all we’ve done is wasted two years of his super youth when he could have been up mashing and learning along the way.
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Post by batman66 on Jul 23, 2024 7:21:03 GMT -5
The Cubs are 10-5 in their last 15 Vs the Phillies, Angels, Orioles, Cardinals, DBacks & Brewers. 10-5... (.667)With the #1 ERA and the #1 Bullpen ERA in July You wanna quit? QUIT I don't want them to quit , but I don't think trading guys like Neris, Tauchman , Hendricks , Wisdom etc would hurt them much and that's partly why I don't want them trading Taillon unless he brings a key very near future piece. I don't think they need to trade any more solid prospects for rentals though, I think they could get just as much help if not more of a spark if they give some of the youth a chance to play more. 60 games left , that's a lot of season , so I don't want them to quit and give up on 2024 but I don't want to see trades made like last deadline losing guys for a rental who won't move the needle or a shit bullpen project that puts them over the luxury tax which is something Rickets has pretty much said they don't want to be over multiple years in a row to acrue the penalties , I'd rather they be over in a season that they are a much better team in than a season where they are fighting for a 3rd WC spot with about 1/3 of the league . The bullpen's ERA is a full run lower than the next teams in that span and they just got Merryweather back so that is very encouraging.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 23, 2024 8:28:22 GMT -5
The Cubs are 10-5 in their last 15 Vs the Phillies, Angels, Orioles, Cardinals, DBacks & Brewers. 10-5... (.667)With the #1 ERA and the #1 Bullpen ERA in July You wanna quit? QUIT Jed literally quit
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 23, 2024 8:32:50 GMT -5
Being more level headed today as Jed's presser really pissed me off. It's not about trading for rentals. But you come out and say what you say on an open mic, you basically quit. Even post game Happ said "we have to make it hard on Jed" in terms of not quitting on the team and adding. You can add guys without them being rentals.
The Cubs are 3.5 games out of the WC with 2.5 months left of baseball to play. To quit now is crazy. I guess I just hate hate hate Dead Jed's mentality yeaf in and year out. No fucking balls.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 23, 2024 8:34:24 GMT -5
Go trade for Brent Rooker, add a power bat the Cubs desperately need.
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Post by kfidd on Jul 23, 2024 8:54:24 GMT -5
Go trade for Brent Rooker, add a power bat the Cubs desperately need. Yes! This is what we should be doing. Rooker is under control through 2028 if memory serves. DH, immediately slots in and provides some much needed power to the heart of the lineup. The problem is that decision isn’t an easy one to make because without other moves it completely mucks up the playing time situation across the board. When Bellinger comes back he has nowhere to go but center. PCA loses all playing time. That doesn’t necessarily have to be a bad thing but if the kid is someone you project as a big part of your future then how is he getting reps? Back to Iowa is the only answer. Ultimately this is why I expect little to nothing this deadline though. To add talent we have to reimagine parts of the roster. It’d be far better to add a Rooker while removing one of our current outfielders from the mix. Too much has to happen for a passive value based operation like we seem to have here. But I absolutely agree as we were discussing a couple months ago, Rooker would be a tremendous addition.
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Post by batman66 on Jul 23, 2024 9:25:07 GMT -5
Being more level headed today as Jed's presser really pissed me off. It's not about trading for rentals. But you come out and say what you say on an open mic, you basically quit. Even post game Happ said "we have to make it hard on Jed" in terms of not quitting on the team and adding. You can add guys without them being rentals. The Cubs are 3.5 games out of the WC with 2.5 months left of baseball to play. To quit now is crazy. I guess I just hate hate hate Dead Jed's mentality yeaf in and year out. No fucking balls. <<You can add guys without them being rentals.>> Fucks sake man , have you still not watched the video straight from his mouth on what he said? Lets try to break it down piece by piece since your mind seems stuck on hearing what you want to hear. <<“The next seven games obviously matter,” Hoyer said. “Certainly, we saw what could happen last year. So you never firmly plant your feet. You have to be able to be nimble.>> To me that means it's still possible he could be adding even short term pieces if they continue to win these games before the deadline......what does that mean to you ? <<I think where we are right now, I would say that moves only for ‘24 – I think unless things change over the next week, I think we probably won’t do a lot of moves that only help us for this year.>> Probably won't do a lot of moves , he doesn't say they will not do ANY , does he ? <<If moves help us in ’25 and beyond – I think we’re still exceptionally well-positioned – I think that’s what our focus will be.>> That literally says they could add guys without them being rentals . <<But like just helping in ’24, I think that probably won’t be our focus unless things change dramatically.”>> And he's saying "focus" doesn't pigeonhole it to being the only thing they might do .
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Post by threeandone on Jul 23, 2024 10:01:01 GMT -5
Neris, Smyly and Hendricks , Tauchman , Wisdon should all be moved , not going to get a whole lot back though other than salary relief but that's ok. Taillon should only be moved if he brings a players that's going to be part of the near future. I'm not against trading him , like others have mentioned he might be at a high sell point , but I don't want it to be to just save money and I don't want it to be for A ball prospects. It should be for somebody who can help no later than 2025 or else just keep him , you have a better chance of winning with him in the middle of your rotation the next two seasons with the way these guys get injured you don't want it to get to the point you need to rely on the younger arms. Hendricks would have to agree to a trade because of the 5/10 year rule. I would prefer to see Hendricks finish out as a Cub this year and retire. Some things are more important than picking up the highly longshot prospect that they would get for him.
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Post by batman66 on Jul 23, 2024 10:56:52 GMT -5
Hendricks would have to agree to a trade because of the 5/10 year rule. I would prefer to see Hendricks finish out as a Cub this year and retire. Some things are more important than picking up the highly longshot prospect that they would get for him. He's 34 , he might not be ready to retire. If I'm Jed, I'm asking Hendricks what he prefers to do , he's earned that respect. If he does plan on this being it , then see if he wants to be moved to a team that is pretty much assured to be in the playoffs
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 23, 2024 11:17:09 GMT -5
For fucks sake man, let it go already. Dead Jed has no fucking balls. Move on already.
And this "respect" thing for Hendricks..... yeah, ok. Like Lester got? Or Rizzo? So Hendricks was part of a WS team. Who cares what Hendricks wants, do what best for the future of the team, I don't care that he has 5/10 rights, let him walk at seasons end then.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jul 23, 2024 11:29:11 GMT -5
Go trade for Brent Rooker, add a power bat the Cubs desperately need. Yes! This is what we should be doing. Rooker is under control through 2028 if memory serves. DH, immediately slots in and provides some much needed power to the heart of the lineup. The problem is that decision isn’t an easy one to make because without other moves it completely mucks up the playing time situation across the board. When Bellinger comes back he has nowhere to go but center. PCA loses all playing time. That doesn’t necessarily have to be a bad thing but if the kid is someone you project as a big part of your future then how is he getting reps? Back to Iowa is the only answer. Ultimately this is why I expect little to nothing this deadline though. To add talent we have to reimagine parts of the roster. It’d be far better to add a Rooker while removing one of our current outfielders from the mix. Too much has to happen for a passive value based operation like we seem to have here. But I absolutely agree as we were discussing a couple months ago, Rooker would be a tremendous addition. The issue with Jed seems to be he's not willing to move any of the assets he's accumulated. I disagree. Rooker is your full time DH, just throw Morel at 3B full time at this point. Belly in CF. Let PCA come off the bench or yes, AAA. There's no need for a kid like PCA to have every day at bats IMO He's fine coming off the bench and learning. Counsel is find ways to get him in the game. If Jed feels the need to get him every day at bats then yes AAA. I'm already worried about PCA. At this point, I'm not worried about ANYONE'S playing time. The offense has been so broken it needs a shake up.
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Post by irishcubfan on Jul 23, 2024 11:44:00 GMT -5
I prefer the Cubs somehow, someway trade Bellinger and than Taillon to clear payroll next year and fire Hoyer as he has proven he can't win without Epstein and let another POBO tackle the off-season.
I don't think that will be the case though as I think Hoyer will be around for 25 and will just trade one of or all of Neris, Smyly, Leiter depending upon how the Brewers and next series wraps up.
The main goal will be ofc the luxury tax and assured of being under it.
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