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Post by batman66 on Nov 17, 2023 21:47:24 GMT -5
Bryan Lahair/Micah Hoffpauir were 28 y/o career minor leaguers when they played on the Cubs in the MLB. They're more comparable to Wisdom/Schwindel. Rizzo hit worse than Mervis in his first 150 PA's. 98 PA's doesn't tell us much. We won't know if he's the next Rizzo or the next bust unless we play him. He's done nothing but hit in the upper minors with good K%, BB%, AVG, and power.
Tauchman certainly isn't my ideal, but it's basically either Tauchman/Canario platoon or Bellinger or a Bader type, and I doubt they bother trading for a CF with PCA in the wings. PCA probably needs another 300-400 PA's in Iowa. I might rather go with Tauchman/Canario on the cheap in CF than pay for a guy like Bader who can't hit and doesn't offer much of anything that PCA doesn't right now, and put that money elsewhere. The Cubs seem to waste several million on 1 WAR players every offseason. No more Mancini's. I don't mind Kiermaier but he's a lefty like PCA.
More than anything, I'd like to see the Cubs act like the large market team that they are. Pete Alonso is available and the Cubs have the funds/prospects to make it happen. Maybe include Mervis and Morel in that deal. Alonso will be a free agent after 2024 and just switched to Boras so giving up Morel and Mervis for one season of Alonso would be pretty steep and end up biting them in the ass when Morel is mashing for the Mets for years and the Cubs have a compensation pick in 2025 for Alonso. Alonso would have to agree to an extension to make it worth giving up that much or come in a bigger deal with a prospect like Vientos, or Mauricio so the Cubs would have something out of the deal long term and not just a season of Alonso. |
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Post by Czarcastic on Nov 17, 2023 21:49:20 GMT -5
More than anything, I'd like to see the Cubs act like the large market team that they are. Pete Alonso is available and the Cubs have the funds/prospects to make it happen. Maybe include Mervis and Morel in that deal. Alonso will be a free agent after 2024 and just switched to Boras so giving up Morel and Mervis for one season of Alonso would be pretty steep and end up biting them in the ass when Morel is mashing for the Mets for years and the Cubs have a compensation pick in 2025 for Alonso. Alonso would have to agree to an extension to make it worth giving up that much or come in a bigger deal with a prospect like Vientos, or Mauricio so the Cubs would have something out of the deal long term and not just a season of Alonso. I'm assuming a market value extension as a pre-requisite for the trade. Having Ohtani and Alonso in the middle of that lineup... |
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Post by batman66 on Nov 17, 2023 22:02:36 GMT -5
Alonso will be a free agent after 2024 and just switched to Boras so giving up Morel and Mervis for one season of Alonso would be pretty steep and end up biting them in the ass when Morel is mashing for the Mets for years and the Cubs have a compensation pick in 2025 for Alonso. Alonso would have to agree to an extension to make it worth giving up that much or come in a bigger deal with a prospect like Vientos, or Mauricio so the Cubs would have something out of the deal long term and not just a season of Alonso. I'm assuming a market value extension as a pre-requisite for the trade. Having Ohtani and Alonso in the middle of that lineup... I would hope that's what they would do , or else I don't want to give up much for just a season of him. If he'd come with a window to sign an extension then I'd happily give up Morel, Mervis and maybe another prospect. but with Boras now being his agent doing something like that is a long shot at best. He used to have the same agent Hoerner did , who the Cubs have a very good relationship with, too bad he changed to Boras. |
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Post by fine09 on Nov 17, 2023 22:06:29 GMT -5
Let me know when Patrick Wisdom has 131 RBI and 40 homers. They're not in the same universe. Wisdom is a career .220 hitter. Alonso .251. One guy is a 4 WAR player, the other 1.5. Alonso hit .217. No thanks |
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Post by fine09 on Nov 17, 2023 22:08:29 GMT -5
Alonso will be a free agent after 2024 and just switched to Boras so giving up Morel and Mervis for one season of Alonso would be pretty steep and end up biting them in the ass when Morel is mashing for the Mets for years and the Cubs have a compensation pick in 2025 for Alonso. Alonso would have to agree to an extension to make it worth giving up that much or come in a bigger deal with a prospect like Vientos, or Mauricio so the Cubs would have something out of the deal long term and not just a season of Alonso. I'm assuming a market value extension as a pre-requisite for the trade. Having Ohtani and Alonso in the middle of that lineup... Alonso wants to set the new high water mark for first basemen’s salary. Pretty lofty expectations for a guy that just hit .217 when they banned the shift.. |
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Post by Czarcastic on Nov 17, 2023 22:09:20 GMT -5
I'm assuming a market value extension as a pre-requisite for the trade. Having Ohtani and Alonso in the middle of that lineup... I would hope that's what they would do , or else I don't want to give up much for just a season of him. If he'd come with a window to sign an extension then I'd happily give up Morel, Mervis and maybe another prospect. but with Boras now being his agent doing something like that is a long shot at best. He used to have the same agent Hoerner did , who the Cubs have a very good relationship with, too bad he changed to Boras. Boras or no...if the Cubs offer him what he'd get on the open market, he'd sign the extension to facilitate a trade. The Cubs need to act like the Yankees. They have the money. And for me, one of the two biggest weaknesses I saw were the inability to consistently hit for power and pitching. Alonso helps solve one of those problems. I know it's a pipe-dream, but for me; Hoerner - Swanson - Alonso - Ohtani - Suzuki is a winner. |
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Post by Czarcastic on Nov 17, 2023 22:14:15 GMT -5
I'm assuming a market value extension as a pre-requisite for the trade. Having Ohtani and Alonso in the middle of that lineup... Alonso wants to set the new high water mark for first basemen’s salary. Pretty lofty expectations for a guy that just hit .217 when they banned the shift.. He still had 40 homers and 100+ homers. I think his wrist injury played a big part in his struggles this year. |
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Post by kfidd on Nov 17, 2023 22:58:17 GMT -5
I think Alonso would be an excellent fit here, just not sure I’m catching the narrative anymore for the Mets moving him. Stearns is running the show now and I believe the only comment he’s made is they’d like to explore an extension with him. If he actually does become available again I’m all for trying to make that work though.
Instead I still like the idea of a bigger trade package with the Rays. I think they’ll want more for Glasnow than is reasonable due to his contract and injury history, but if you include three years each of Diaz and Fairbanks the Cubs can be much more aggressive forking over some quality young and controlled players. Something like Morel, Wicks, and Mervis could be a great conversation starter.
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Post by irishcubfan on Nov 17, 2023 23:23:16 GMT -5
I think Alonso would be an excellent fit here, just not sure I’m catching the narrative anymore for the Mets moving him. Stearns is running the show now and I believe the only comment he’s made is they’d like to explore an extension with him. If he actually does become available again I’m all for trying to make that work though. Instead I still like the idea of a bigger trade package with the Rays. I think they’ll want more for Glasnow than is reasonable due to his contract and injury history, but if you include three years each of Diaz and Fairbanks the Cubs can be much more aggressive forking over some quality young and controlled players. Something like Morel, Wicks, and Mervis could be a great conversation starter. Agreed on the Alonso part, only moved if he forces himself out. I suspect the Cubs first baseman to start the year will be among the following; Hoskins, Santana, Tellez, and Belt. |
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Post by batman66 on Nov 17, 2023 23:25:50 GMT -5
I think Alonso would be an excellent fit here, just not sure I’m catching the narrative anymore for the Mets moving him. Stearns is running the show now and I believe the only comment he’s made is they’d like to explore an extension with him. If he actually does become available again I’m all for trying to make that work though. Instead I still like the idea of a bigger trade package with the Rays. I think they’ll want more for Glasnow than is reasonable due to his contract and injury history, but if you include three years each of Diaz and Fairbanks the Cubs can be much more aggressive forking over some quality young and controlled players. Something like Morel, Wicks, and Mervis could be a great conversation starter. Remove Wicks from that and I'd be all for that , I'm not in favor of trading him in any deal. Diaz had an excellent season and it's possible they'd sell high on him as his contract escalates 2 million per year , I didn't realize he's already 32 years old though. |
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Post by batman66 on Nov 17, 2023 23:31:39 GMT -5
I think Alonso would be an excellent fit here, just not sure I’m catching the narrative anymore for the Mets moving him. Stearns is running the show now and I believe the only comment he’s made is they’d like to explore an extension with him. If he actually does become available again I’m all for trying to make that work though. Instead I still like the idea of a bigger trade package with the Rays. I think they’ll want more for Glasnow than is reasonable due to his contract and injury history, but if you include three years each of Diaz and Fairbanks the Cubs can be much more aggressive forking over some quality young and controlled players. Something like Morel, Wicks, and Mervis could be a great conversation starter. Stearns did say that , but Alonso was very pissed that they fired Buck and was trying to get to meet with Cohen face to face to voice his displeasure so it sounds like he's not a real big fan of Stearns already . It's interesting though that the Cubs and Brewers both tried to trade for him at the deadline, and now Stearns is in NY and Counsell is here who I'm sure Stearns consulted with about dealing for him at some point , so I'd imagine both like him. |
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Post by bryzzobrist on Dec 10, 2023 20:34:11 GMT -5
1 Happ
2 Nico
3 trout
4 suzuki
5 Morel
6 Swanson
7 Mervis
C Amaya
DH Wisdom
The one guy who could make all the difference with this lineup of ours. Likely-hood aside, this is the gamble i want to go with.
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Post by batman66 on Dec 11, 2023 8:40:47 GMT -5
Nice catch , but he needs to take a break and get some rest if he's going to be playing everyday in 2024 I don't want the guy playing year round . |
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