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Post by trav768 on Nov 6, 2023 18:39:25 GMT -5
Brewers owner Mark Attanasio to a group on Zoom: "We're all here today because we lost Craig. But I've reflected on this. You know, Craig has lost us and he's lost our community. It's a really special place to be."
"Definitely not betrayed," Attanasio said when asked if he felt that way about Counsell's departure. "I can't imagine somebody wanting to be somewhere else."
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Post by trav768 on Nov 6, 2023 18:44:38 GMT -5
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Post by Clark Street on Nov 6, 2023 18:56:43 GMT -5
With how tense things are on the Southside right now if the Cubs so much as sniff the world series in the next couple years, Sox fans are going to mass riot. All 8 of them. If Hoyer assembles a long-term winning team for Counsell, the White Sox may move to Nashville before their stadium contract expires.
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Post by batman66 on Nov 6, 2023 20:26:16 GMT -5
This is insanely Stunning!! Did not see this happening at all especially Hoyer/Tom Rickets all backed Ross for next season . Stunning . I wasn't online all day and saw this about a half hour ago and thought it was a bullshit clickbait article I was probably Ross biggest supporter on here, or close to it , but Councell is the best manager in the game and was avilable and the Cubs grabbed him, If this doesn't show people they are serious about winning then I don't know what does.
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Post by batman66 on Nov 6, 2023 20:34:37 GMT -5
Surprise, surprise, suprise . . . And where do we go from here . . . Jed Hoyer and Tom Rickets just set the expectations extremely high this offseason. They just pulled off shocker #1 , will we have others like a huge signing or trade this winter ? I'm literally shaking , just finding out about this after not being in touch with the outside world and internet all day. I liked Ross a lot and was one of the few that didn't want them to move on and I though Councell was going to follow Stearns to NY and had no hopes the Cubs would hire who I think is the best manager there is now that Francona retired. I was just hoping he would not go to the Mets. So happy and this should prove to anybody they are not messing around .
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Post by batman66 on Nov 6, 2023 20:37:22 GMT -5
I always liked Counsell as a manager, but never expected him to join the Cubs. Now that he has, I welcome him with open arms. Ross's tenure with the Cubs should be appreciated by fans as both as player and manager. But I became concerned with some of his recent game day decisions. Spending big bucks for a new manager may imply much activity regarding player acquisitions and promotions before spring training. That may have been part of the deal that convinced Counsell to manage the Cubs. I always hated him , the same way I hated Dennis Rodman , Bob Probert , Jim Edmonds etc it was because they were too good against my Chicago teams but I'm thrilled he's the new manager.
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Post by batman66 on Nov 6, 2023 21:09:30 GMT -5
Brewers reactions
I think maybe Brandon Woodruff sums up all our reactions to this Craig Counsell-to-the-Cubs news quite well:
"Lord have mercy."
William Cobntreras posted 3 face palm emogies
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Post by batman66 on Nov 6, 2023 22:14:01 GMT -5
I still stunned! I was going through my facebook posts and thought was some prank or joke at 1st . Yep , I wasn't online all day and when I went online a story popped up on my browser saying Ross was fired and a division rival is replacing him, I thougt thought it was a joke and one of the clickbait stories.
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Post by southpaw773 on Nov 6, 2023 22:26:04 GMT -5
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Post by bryzzobrist on Nov 6, 2023 23:46:35 GMT -5
Willson Contreras said "about time"
Damn dude, ok
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Post by Drav on Nov 7, 2023 1:29:27 GMT -5
So any guesses on the coaching staff? Will Counsell be keeping the same guys, bringing in his own guys?
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Post by thisbuds4u on Nov 7, 2023 2:44:56 GMT -5
So any guesses on the coaching staff? Will Counsell be keeping the same guys, bringing in his own guys? Maybe a different 3rd base coach? I guess it depends on what the new manager for the Brewers decides who he wants as his coaches.
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Post by thisbuds4u on Nov 7, 2023 3:44:25 GMT -5
Willson Contreras said "about time" Damn dude, ok I'm with Willson on this one.
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Post by fine09 on Nov 7, 2023 4:22:25 GMT -5
So any guesses on the coaching staff? Will Counsell be keeping the same guys, bringing in his own guys? He will be bringing in a few guys most likely from his old staff but could be from elsewhere. You don’t pay him well over double what the next highest paid MLB manager makes & tell him he doesn’t get to choose his staff..
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Post by batman66 on Nov 7, 2023 8:48:26 GMT -5
I'm still in shock over this and bummed that I caught wind of it many hours after it happened and didn't get the thrill of hearing it while news was breaking.
I'm listening now to all the talk shows etc reaction when they were hearing it go down and I don't recall this kind of buzz and positive vibe with the Cubs with any free agent signing. I haven't heard any negative thing being said other than some feeling Ross was done wrong , but they understand why the Cubs would do this.
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Post by batman66 on Nov 7, 2023 8:53:36 GMT -5
So any guesses on the coaching staff? Will Counsell be keeping the same guys, bringing in his own guys? He will be bringing in a few guys most likely from his old staff but could be from elsewhere. You don’t pay him well over double what the next highest paid MLB manager makes & tell him he doesn’t get to choose his staff.. And you don't pay him well over double what any manager makes and then go on and do little this winter in free agency and trades. I previously had zero hope for Ohtani or a big trade like Soto but now even though I'm trying not to let myself get sucked in to the possibilty, it's hard not too. The Cubs mean business and they just threw around the money and shocked the baseball world.
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Post by kfidd on Nov 7, 2023 9:03:44 GMT -5
I'm still in shock over this and bummed that I caught wind of it many hours after it happened and didn't get the thrill of hearing it while news was breaking. I'm listening now to all the talk shows etc reaction when they were hearing it go down and I don't recall this kind of buzz and positive vibe with the Cubs with any free agent signing. I haven't heard any negative thing being said other than some feeling Ross was done wrong , but they understand why the Cubs would do this. I was wondering where you were all day long yesterday. 😂
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Post by batman66 on Nov 7, 2023 9:19:06 GMT -5
I'm still in shock over this and bummed that I caught wind of it many hours after it happened and didn't get the thrill of hearing it while news was breaking. I'm listening now to all the talk shows etc reaction when they were hearing it go down and I don't recall this kind of buzz and positive vibe with the Cubs with any free agent signing. I haven't heard any negative thing being said other than some feeling Ross was done wrong , but they understand why the Cubs would do this. I was wondering where you were all day long yesterday. 😂 I had a lot to do and wasn't online or on my phone until late afternoon and then when I went online on my browser a story popped up saying Ross fired and Cubs hire division rival and I thought it was clickbait bullshit , I went to my go to MLBTraderumors to see if it was true and did not see anything , figuring it would be on the front page and big news so I just blew it off as clickbait. Then I went on facebook and saw a bunch of stuff and went back to MLBTraderumors again to see ,and it turns out so much was happening in the baseball world with all the managers and QO's and stuff that the Ross stuff was burried on page 3 already on trade rumors.
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Post by trav768 on Nov 7, 2023 9:51:51 GMT -5
"Cubs were told by one of Counsell’s friends, ‘If he ever managed anywhere else, the Cubs have always been his dream job.'”
there you go. he wants to be here.
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Post by cfin on Nov 7, 2023 10:24:37 GMT -5
He will be bringing in a few guys most likely from his old staff but could be from elsewhere. You don’t pay him well over double what the next highest paid MLB manager makes & tell him he doesn’t get to choose his staff.. And you don't pay him well over double what any manager makes and then go on and do little this winter in free agency and trades. I previously had zero hope for Ohtani or a big trade like Soto but now even though I'm trying not to let myself get sucked in to the possibilty, it's hard not too. The Cubs mean business and they just threw around the money and shocked the baseball world. This was originally my thought as well - and I still think they will spend some money in free agency because of bringing Counsell in - but I also have to wonder if Counsell was brought in to try and get more out of Mervis and Canario.
Most everybody on this board thought Mervis didn't get a fair shake when he was brought up. I argued that he didn't really show a lot when he was playing. But perhaps Counsell can bring out the talent that Mervis showed in the minors.
Canario I was a bit more impressed with, but he also didn't get a lot of playing time. But I also sort of kind of agree with Ross's management of him. They were in the middle of a pennant race and couldn't really focus on developing player. Still... I probably would have given him another start after the grand slam game, if he had an 0fer then you might bench him.
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