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Post by bryzzobrist on Sept 5, 2023 23:56:03 GMT -5
Its early and there is no guarantee we'll make it, but it's an exciting time right now being up 3 games up in the wild card and 2.5 back in the division. This team is good. Get to the playoffs and absolutely anything can happen. Even the Unnnderdog comes out on top every now and again.
Playoff rotation for me looks like: Stroman, Steele, Wicks, Assad.
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Post by lu13cubbie on Sept 6, 2023 6:10:32 GMT -5
Its early and there is no guarantee we'll make it, but it's an exciting time right now being up 3 games up in the wild card and 2.5 back in the division. This team is good. Get to the playoffs and absolutely anything can happen. Even the Unnnderdog comes out on top every now and again. Playoff rotation for me looks like: Stroman, Steele, Wicks, Assad. Can't count on Stroman yet, but Steele, Wicks and Assad looks good. I got to think that, barring a complete collapse, Hendricks will be in there somewhere.
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Post by batman66 on Sept 6, 2023 9:58:23 GMT -5
Its early and there is no guarantee we'll make it, but it's an exciting time right now being up 3 games up in the wild card and 2.5 back in the division. This team is good. Get to the playoffs and absolutely anything can happen. Even the Unnnderdog comes out on top every now and again. Playoff rotation for me looks like: Stroman, Steele, Wicks, Assad. 3 games up on the 2nd spot and ONLY 1.5 back of the first spot and 2.5 in the division so the odds are looking pretty good we will see post season baseball <<This team is good. Get to the playoffs and absolutely anything can happen.>> Well consider they are getting pretty damn good at winning series , what it is now something like 14-1-2 and the playoffs are a series . so yeah anything can happen.
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Post by threeandone on Sept 6, 2023 13:16:32 GMT -5
Its early and there is no guarantee we'll make it, but it's an exciting time right now being up 3 games up in the wild card and 2.5 back in the division. This team is good. Get to the playoffs and absolutely anything can happen. Even the Unnnderdog comes out on top every now and again. Playoff rotation for me looks like: Stroman, Steele, Wicks, Assad. It is early with a lot of variables to play out , mostly seeding and home field or not. Seeding and how they are playing will mostly determine if they even ARE an unnnderdog or not. If they make it, will they be the #3 with the division or WC and which slot? I see the playoff rotation being.... (with Stroman) Steele, Stroman, Hendricks, and Taillon, with Assad and Wicks in relief....... (without Stroman), Steele, Hendricks, Taillon, and Assad.
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Post by bryzzobrist on Sept 6, 2023 14:08:53 GMT -5
I hope we don't give starts to J-Mo. Would that be the best decision? Regular season, i get it, but playoff rotation? I'm thinking Taillon should go to the pen or the pine.
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Post by irishcubfan on Sept 6, 2023 14:48:08 GMT -5
Would want the Cubs to face the Braves in the second round given it is a five game series.
I find it absolutely ridiculous that teams are not reseeded, the Braves should face the lowest remaining seed after the wild card round.
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Post by bryzzobrist on Sept 6, 2023 15:22:23 GMT -5
Anyone else feeling estatic that we actually went for it at the deadline? So close to not happening. We can thank Dansby, and even Tommy and the Ricketses.
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Post by irishcubfan on Sept 6, 2023 15:47:30 GMT -5
Anyone else feeling estatic that we actually went for it at the deadline? So close to not happening. We can thank Dansby, and even Tommy and the Ricketses. I am happy that I can delay watching the NFL for a bit longer, man has that league gone downhill over the last 7 years or so. Meaningful baseball is awesome and from what I can see, only one team is clearly better than them (in the NL).
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Post by cubbies85 on Sept 7, 2023 14:56:45 GMT -5
No way am I trusting both Assad and Wicks over Hendricks when it comes to playoff pitching. Especially Assad whose results have been great but his Peripherals aren’t, indicting he’s mostly been lucky.
If Stroman is a go I’m rolling with Steele/Stro/Hendricks/Wicks
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Post by bryzzobrist on Sept 7, 2023 22:44:16 GMT -5
Happ quietly having a solid season and .363 obp puts him at the 2nd highest obp behind Belli. Not sure why we havent tried happ at leadoff much since hes quick also. Guessing he's not interested in the position.
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Post by irishcubfan on Sept 8, 2023 1:13:47 GMT -5
Happ quietly having a solid season and .363 obp puts him at the 2nd highest obp behind Belli. Not sure why we havent tried happ at leadoff much since hes quick also. Guessing he's not interested in the position. Saw a couple of Ross quotes where he does not want to mess with the batting order,something along the lines of if it isn't broke it does not need fixing. The Cubs need Happ and Suzuki to be their second and third best weapons, assuming Batmans adopted son continues to rake at a high level.
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Post by batman66 on Sept 8, 2023 7:16:46 GMT -5
Happ quietly having a solid season and .363 obp puts him at the 2nd highest obp behind Belli. Not sure why we havent tried happ at leadoff much since hes quick also. Guessing he's not interested in the position. Saw a couple of Ross quotes where he does not want to mess with the batting order,something along the lines of if it isn't broke it does not need fixing. The Cubs need Happ and Suzuki to be their second and third best weapons, assuming Batmans adopted son continues to rake at a high level. come on man , does it show that much ?
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Post by irishcubfan on Sept 8, 2023 10:17:03 GMT -5
Saw a couple of Ross quotes where he does not want to mess with the batting order,something along the lines of if it isn't broke it does not need fixing. The Cubs need Happ and Suzuki to be their second and third best weapons, assuming Batmans adopted son continues to rake at a high level. come on man , does it show that much ? I have therapy resources available to you once he signs with NYY or SF. I'll even throw Anaheim in there as a dark horse. Let's hope there is at least one or two playoff series win in the brief Bellinger era.
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Post by tedw on Sept 8, 2023 10:53:01 GMT -5
come on man , does it show that much ? I have therapy resources available to you once he signs with NYY or SF. I'll even throw Anaheim in there as a dark horse. Let's hope there is at least one or two playoff series win in the brief Bellinger era. The Cubs have the means to sign Bellinger just as much as NYY and SF. The question is will they with PCA on the verge of coming up. PCA has been great and is likely the Cubs future in centerfield, but I don't know if I want to give up Belli just because they share the same position. And that is likely why Belli has been playing 1st base more and more often this season. If he is willing to move to 1st, I could see the Cubs doing everything possible to sign him. Edit: Or they could even put him in left field when/if the Cubs want to give Mervis another try.
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Post by rvn11 on Sept 8, 2023 11:13:22 GMT -5
I have therapy resources available to you once he signs with NYY or SF. I'll even throw Anaheim in there as a dark horse. Let's hope there is at least one or two playoff series win in the brief Bellinger era. The Cubs have the means to sign Bellinger just as much as NYY and SF. The question is will they with PCA on the verge of coming up. PCA has been great and is likely the Cubs future in centerfield, but I don't know if I want to give up Belli just because they share the same position. And that is likely why Belli has been playing 1st base more and more often this season. If he is willing to move to 1st, I could see the Cubs doing everything possible to sign him. Edit: Or they could even put him in left field when/if the Cubs want to give Mervis another try. Cubs for sure have the means, they just don't have as much need as NYY and SF have to get him. The Cubs have great depth right now and prospects on the way up to supplement. They might be able to get by going forward without him. SF and NYY have struggling offenses that NEED a middle of the order bat like him, to the point they might offer up a massive contract to entice him, to a level the Cubs might not entertain.
My hope is that he's enjoyed it here so much that he gives the Cubs more of a look. SF is not the place to go for hitters, and that outfield is a hard place to play, not fun long term. Yankees are the bigger problem as I see it. I could see him doing well there with a similar excitement to playing at Wrigley.
Cubs need to get back on track today, if not Arizona will get even closer and with some solid momentum. Not a good time to have Taillon on the mound...
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Post by batman66 on Sept 8, 2023 13:11:32 GMT -5
The Cubs have the means to sign Bellinger just as much as NYY and SF. The question is will they with PCA on the verge of coming up. PCA has been great and is likely the Cubs future in centerfield, but I don't know if I want to give up Belli just because they share the same position. And that is likely why Belli has been playing 1st base more and more often this season. If he is willing to move to 1st, I could see the Cubs doing everything possible to sign him. Edit: Or they could even put him in left field when/if the Cubs want to give Mervis another try. Cubs for sure have the means, they just don't have as much need as NYY and SF have to get him. The Cubs have great depth right now and prospects on the way up to supplement. They might be able to get by going forward without him. SF and NYY have struggling offenses that NEED a middle of the order bat like him, to the point they might offer up a massive contract to entice him, to a level the Cubs might not entertain.
My hope is that he's enjoyed it here so much that he gives the Cubs more of a look. SF is not the place to go for hitters, and that outfield is a hard place to play, not fun long term. Yankees are the bigger problem as I see it. I could see him doing well there with a similar excitement to playing at Wrigley.
Cubs need to get back on track today, if not Arizona will get even closer and with some solid momentum. Not a good time to have Taillon on the mound...
Sure they have as much need as NY and SF. Look where they are now , a contender because in large part they found the middle of the order RBI guy the lacked , you lose him you take huge step backwards. Yes they have OF depth up the wazoo , none of which is really ready to step in and be a dependable RBI guy in 2024. You can't depend on rookies to do anything so as much as I see Caissie as a middle of the order RBI guy of the future, it might take 3-4 years for him to be a dependable one , rookies struggle sometimes, sometimes they struggle in year two and the first 2-3-4 years they are kind of up and down and still finding their way. I have faith the Cubs will get production from the abundance of OF prospects they have , but it might nor be steady and dependable type production like you get from a veteran , atleast for a few years.
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Post by kfidd on Sept 8, 2023 14:02:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I have to disagree with the notion that the Giants or Yanks have a greater need for Bellinger than we do. The Cubs have a burgeoning farm system, but as Batman just said, depending on those guys right off the bat is something you can’t just depend on. The start of the ‘24 season should have a very different vibe and expectation than opening days of recent seasons. The Cubs are back and are just getting started. They shouldn’t have the expectation of say the Braves or Dodgers attached to them, but certainly the transition years should be behind us and we fans should expect the Cubs to win. Simply losing a middle of the order presence like Bell for us and replacing him with prospect promotions is a bad bad idea that would feel like a step backwards. It’s similar to how PCA likely shouldn’t be the leadoff guy whenever his promotion comes, but rather he should bat at the bottom of the order while a solid and deep lineup ahead of carries the load.
Now, I don’t think the Cubs are in Bellinger or bust mode. There are other ways to improve the offense if Bellinger’s market balloons out of control. If Ohtani is cleared to hit, he is an option. If Alonso is deemed available and the price is right, he’s an option. There’s always the unexpected (I’ve tossed around Diaz and Paredes as maybe targets from the Rays, or other truly unknown candidates).
I said it about a month ago that I’m trying to learn my lesson from last winter where several guys I viewed as obvious fits have had disappointing seasons to this point. If Bellinger goes elsewhere I will try to be patient and trust the front office process and acumen. But at the end of the day I expect the 2024 team to field a stronger roster than we’ll end the 2023 season with. Losing a presence like Bellinger and not replacing him with another proven, impact bat is not an off-season outcome I’d be happy and supportive about.
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Post by Cubtastic on Sept 8, 2023 15:53:20 GMT -5
If they get in they are not going anywhere, they beat up bad pitching and can't hit good pitching, Evident by the fact that they score 10 runs or 1, no consistency what so ever.they have a bunch of guys who are a little above average but none who are studs, maybe Cody but that's it, they will see elite pitching in the post season and that will be their undoing.
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Post by bryzzobrist on Sept 8, 2023 18:05:30 GMT -5
MIL vs Yankees later tonight. No score yet.
cubs 2.5 back division cubs up 2 wild card
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Post by TheChico on Sept 8, 2023 18:28:57 GMT -5
If they get in they are not going anywhere, they beat up bad pitching and can't hit good pitching, Evident by the fact that they score 10 runs or 1, no consistency what so ever.they have a bunch of guys who are a little above average but none who are studs, maybe Cody but that's it, they will see elite pitching in the post season and that will be their undoing. 2022 - Phillies defense is terrible and will not get past the first round of the playoff and will be their undoing. 2021 - Braves lost Acuna for the season, they have no chance to make the playoffs they should sell at the deadline and just punt the rest of the season. Yeah.. I guess you are right, the Cubs have no chance in the playoff so why even try.
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