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Post by nickster on Jul 8, 2016 6:24:29 GMT -5
Period.
its freaking wierd. It's like Joe is too cool to do what needs to be done in a game. In addition to the pitching staff, Joe has SUCKED during this losing streak. Poor managing has contributed.
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Post by jerm42991 on Jul 8, 2016 7:53:57 GMT -5
If you actually look at the numbers, bunting lowers your chance of scoring
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Post by lu13cubbie on Jul 8, 2016 8:00:58 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of bunting. Giving up an out for a base is not the best way to score runs. There are no absolutes in baseball. Saying, "period" doesn't make your opinion right.
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Post by fine09 on Jul 8, 2016 8:45:21 GMT -5
Period. its freaking wierd. It's like Joe is too cool to do what needs to be done in a game. In addition to the pitching staff, Joe has SUCKED during this losing streak. Poor managing has contributed. The pitching has stunk in "Some" of the games we lost but our offense (or lack thereof) is what has been the biggest problem during our funk. Last night after Hammel gave up the homer he pitched pretty well into the 6th. inning so I'm not buying blaming him at all.. |
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Post by sosacorks on Jul 8, 2016 10:34:38 GMT -5
Rondon blew the save. It's really that simple. I'm not going to get all up in arms and say Rondon stinks because it doesn't happen. At the same time though that is what lost the game. I'm sure they'll all move on today and head to Pittsburgh looking to get a win
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Post by TheChico on Jul 8, 2016 10:39:10 GMT -5
How about the bullpen especially Rondon HOLD A FUCKEN LEAD!!!
Then we can worry about the other shit.
Period!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 10:41:22 GMT -5
Absolutely Rondon blew the save. They should have played screw the closer last night.
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Post by pablovi on Jul 8, 2016 11:38:49 GMT -5
Rondon blew the save. It's really that simple. I'm not going to get all up in arms and say Rondon stinks because it doesn't happen. At the same time though that is what lost the game. I'm sure they'll all move on today and head to Pittsburgh looking to get a win Rondon blew the save, it happens every now and then... But you think it's not normal for a team to not give up 3 runs in 9 innings? Every team does it! So, if the pitchers played like the best there is? How come they lost? You think it's normal for a team to score only 3 runs in 11 innings against one of the worst teams in baseball? Or that having two men on and no outs in 3 innings and not scoring any runs from those is normal? Yesterday and many other games have been on the offense, they don't know how to hit for contact, and play small ball anymore. |
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Post by foolforthecity on Jul 8, 2016 11:41:21 GMT -5
Rondon blew the save. It's really that simple. I'm not going to get all up in arms and say Rondon stinks because it doesn't happen. At the same time though that is what lost the game. I'm sure they'll all move on today and head to Pittsburgh looking to get a win Rondon blew the save, it happens every now and then... But you think it's not normal for a team to not give up 3 runs in 9 innings? Every team does it. So, if the pitcher played like the best there is? How come they lost? You think it's normal for a team to score only 3 runs in 11 innings against one of the worst teams in baseball? Or that having two men on and no outs in 3 innings and not scoring any runs from those is normal? Yesterday and and many other games have been on the offense, they don't know how to hit for contact, and play sample ball anymore. Well said. Too much swinging for the fences every AB |
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Post by fine09 on Jul 8, 2016 12:11:33 GMT -5
Absolutely Rondon blew the save. They should have played screw the closer last night. He hurts himself badly when he starts out 2-0 because they simply sit on his fastball.. He CANNOT fall behind like he did & turned around & did the same thing to Francour before he walked him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 12:15:26 GMT -5
Absolutely Rondon blew the save. They should have played screw the closer last night. He hurts himself badly when he starts out 2-0 because they simply sit on his fastball.. He CANNOT fall behind like he did & turned around & did the same thing to Francour before he walked him. Our pitchers have failed to control the strikezone lately. One game I was watching I counted the starter went 1-0 on 10 of the first 11 hitters. It didn't end well. |
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Post by groomsy on Jul 8, 2016 12:20:32 GMT -5
If you actually look at the numbers, bunting lowers your chance of scoring actually it doesn't also it makes the braves take a chance of pitching to candelario or walking him to get to a pinch hitter and loading the bases so many possibilities actually |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 12:30:46 GMT -5
If you actually look at the numbers, bunting lowers your chance of scoring actually it doesn't also it makes the braves take a chance of pitching to candelario or walking him to get to a pinch hitter and loading the bases so many possibilities actually It actually does. It's an even play at best. |
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Post by jerm42991 on Jul 8, 2016 12:42:15 GMT -5
If you actually look at the numbers, bunting lowers your chance of scoring actually it doesn't also it makes the braves take a chance of pitching to candelario or walking him to get to a pinch hitter and loading the bases so many possibilities actually Actually it does, look up run expectancy In 2016: 1st and 2nd no outs: 1.47 2nd and 3rd, 1 out: 1.33 1st and 2nd 1 out: 0.92 2nd and 3rd 2 out: 0.58 1st no outs: 0.88 2nd 1 out: 0.67 I can keep going but you get the point, there is not a single scenario where bunting increases your odds of scoring. |
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Post by groomsy on Jul 8, 2016 12:52:38 GMT -5
well if the team can't hit the ball probably not, but also they shouldn't have to be in that situation
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Post by nickster on Jul 8, 2016 19:14:46 GMT -5
If you actually look at the numbers, bunting lowers your chance of scoring Actually you are wrong, bunting with runners on 1st and 2nd and no outs increases your chances of 1 run by 5% and increases your chances of scoring of 2 runs by 6% not including botched bunt defense period. You bunt there with your 230 hitting hitter there. Period. It increases your chances of winning. Period. Decreasing the statistical best chance of winning or tying there is bad managing. Period. |
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Post by jerm42991 on Jul 8, 2016 20:22:39 GMT -5
If you actually look at the numbers, bunting lowers your chance of scoring Actually you are wrong, bunting with runners on 1st and 2nd and no outs increases your chances of 1 run by 5% and increases your chances of scoring of 2 runs by 6% not including botched bunt defense period. You bunt there with your 230 hitting hitter there. Period. It increases your chances of winning. Period. Decreasing the statistical best chance of winning or tying there is bad managing. Period. Where are you pulling those numbers from? Every run expectancy chart says otherwise |
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