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Post by TheNatural on Jun 7, 2016 21:16:59 GMT -5
If he doesnt get an identical suspension as Odor MLB will look like a flippin joke IMO. He ran out to the mound and swung but missed. Im betting he gets 5 games and it will be a laugh-fest for me. Odor gets seven just because he knows how to throw a blow? At a guy approaching him with his fists up.......This ass hat charges the mound and swings like a girl and he wont get the same punishment because he fights like my sister.
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Post by jtwilda on Jun 8, 2016 3:23:16 GMT -5
Machado should be suspended but Ventura got what was coming to him. Ventura is a thug who throws at players and hides behind his lineman-sized catcher. I guess Machado is a bat-throwing crybaby as well so I can see how people dislike him.
If you watch it in slow motion, Machado actually clocked Ventura and buckled him. Too bad they didn't knock each other out.
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Post by batman66 on Jun 8, 2016 8:10:03 GMT -5
Machado should be suspended but Ventura got what was coming to him. Ventura is a thug who throws at players and hides behind his lineman-sized catcher. I guess Machado is a bat-throwing crybaby as well so I can see how people dislike him. If you watch it in slow motion, Machado actually clocked Ventura and buckled him. Too bad they didn't knock each other out. Agree with you on Ventura . No, he didn't clock him, he barely made contact and his hand flew open as they both lost balance, it was more of a bitch slap , thats what I saw in slow mo. In regular speed it looks like he clocked him.
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Post by chifan89 on Jun 8, 2016 8:16:22 GMT -5
Machado is such a tool. He deserves a good a** whooping still from when he threw a fit a Donaldson for tagging him too hard.
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Post by TheNatural on Jun 8, 2016 8:23:39 GMT -5
Machado should be suspended but Ventura got what was coming to him. Ventura is a thug who throws at players and hides behind his lineman-sized catcher. I guess Machado is a bat-throwing crybaby as well so I can see how people dislike him. If you watch it in slow motion, Machado actually clocked Ventura and buckled him. Too bad they didn't knock each other out. Im no fan of Ventura either. Charging a mound, regardless of why and taking a ballerina swing at the pitcher is equal to if not worse than clocking a guy who dove into your legs. Then got up an put his hands in a fighting position. If I was Odor I might have right crossed Bautista once he put his dukes up. But will one guy get a lighter punishment just because he didnt clean someones clock accidentally? Or because hes a superstar?
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Post by glenman12 on Jun 8, 2016 9:28:31 GMT -5
the thing that stuck out to me was the lame attempt by Perez to protect his pitcher..he basically let Machado get to the mound..
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Post by sosacorks on Jun 8, 2016 9:52:26 GMT -5
Machado will get 5 games but in my opinion Ventura needs to get 10 or atleast 2 starts. He's no stranger to hitting guys and has a much longer record of being a douche bag than Machado. If he was in the NL and had to bat I doubt he'd hit as many guys. To me that makes him nothing more than a coward and a dbag.
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Post by batman66 on Jun 8, 2016 10:02:32 GMT -5
Machado will get 5 games but in my opinion Ventura needs to get 10 or atleast 2 starts. He's no stranger to hitting guys and has a much longer record of being a douche bag than Machado. If he was in the NL and had to bat I doubt he'd hit as many guys. To me that makes him nothing more than a coward and a dbag. Yeah, this should be adding up for Ventura , he has a history of this and it's not like it was a retaliation or anything, it was just personal. He came way inside 2 pitches in a row the previous at bat to Machado, they had words after he ended up flying out and then he drills him the next at bat clearly on purpose.
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Post by sosacorks on Jun 8, 2016 10:48:28 GMT -5
Machado will get 5 games but in my opinion Ventura needs to get 10 or atleast 2 starts. He's no stranger to hitting guys and has a much longer record of being a douche bag than Machado. If he was in the NL and had to bat I doubt he'd hit as many guys. To me that makes him nothing more than a coward and a dbag. Yeah, this should be adding up for Ventura , he has a history of this and it's not like it was a retaliation or anything, it was just personal. He came way inside 2 pitches in a row the previous at bat to Machado, they had words after he ended up flying out and then he drills him the next at bat clearly on purpose. Yeah Machado was the fool in regards to the Donaldson tag but this was 1 incident whereas Ventura purposely hits batters multiple times ever year. Much longer track record so in my opinion has punishment should much more severe. They can't keep talking about player safety yet let pitchers hit guys solely because that guy does well against them. Either they allow the old school ways or they don't. I just don't see any middle ground in just allowing guys to have it both ways.
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Post by mel10 on Jun 9, 2016 9:11:38 GMT -5
the thing that stuck out to me was the lame attempt by Perez to protect his pitcher..he basically let Machado get to the mound.. It seems to me that his team mates are fed up with his bullshit.
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Post by glenman12 on Jun 9, 2016 16:05:05 GMT -5
according to Bob Nightingale, Machado got 4 games and he is appealing..havent heard yet on Ventura..
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Post by trav768 on Jun 9, 2016 17:15:11 GMT -5
just heard on ESPN, Ventura suspended 9 games and also is appealing
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Post by batman66 on Jun 9, 2016 17:18:59 GMT -5
just heard on ESPN, Ventura suspended 9 games and also is appealing It's a joke, he misses 1 start, I know he gets hit by not getting paid for 9 games but Machado's team has to play 4 games without him that he would have played in while Ventura's team misses him for 1 game he would have played in. They need to come down more on the pitcher or this stuff will never stop.
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Post by jtwilda on Jun 9, 2016 17:19:21 GMT -5
Ventura deserves more. He is really only going to miss one start and maybe have another start pushed back a day or two. This guy has incited about 4 bench-clearing incidents in the last year and a half.
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Post by trav768 on Jun 9, 2016 17:23:38 GMT -5
just heard on ESPN, Ventura suspended 9 games and also is appealing It's a joke, he misses 1 start, I know he gets hit by not getting paid for 9 games but Machado's team has to play 4 games without him that he would have played in while Ventura's team misses him for 1 game he would have played in. They need to come down more on the pitcher or this stuff will never stop. agree they need to do something different for pitchers. example: he is suspended for 9 games, he should miss 9 actual games he would had started.
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Post by sosacorks on Jun 9, 2016 18:42:06 GMT -5
I agree Ventura should have gotten 10 games at least. Even his own team has had enough of his shit. Manfred is an idiot. Yes let's change rules in the name of player safety but still allow an idiot like Ventura to keep hitting people. I guess they'll just wait until he drills someone in the head and does some real damage until he actually gets a punishment that he might learn from.
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