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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 17:11:44 GMT -5
Its a wonderful thing to know the other 4 starters are doing well since Jake has faultered a bit the last 2 outings. To me , this is what makes this team special. Jake had to end his run, and one helluva run it was. But Lester, Kendricks, Hammel, and Lackey has definetly picked up as well. It'll be good to see him get back ( Jake). Before todays start though, 1 stat that had me a bit concerned was his walks. He had 25 walks to 75 SO. Thats before this game. Hopefully he gets back on his winning ways. This isnt a doom and gloom thread about Jake. just the opposite. The staff is doing just fine and dandy...
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Post by chubbycub on Jun 5, 2016 19:34:53 GMT -5
Before todays start though, 1 stat that had me a bit concerned was his walks. He had 25 walks to 75 SO. Thats before this game. Hopefully he gets back on his winning ways. This isnt a doom and gloom thread about Jake. just the opposite. The staff is doing just fine and dandy... Nobody on this site would call it doom and gloom. I think he's just a workout freak who happens to be a pitcher, and a late bloomer because of the worst coaching of all time in Baltimore which cost him years, but because of his work ethic he will be relevant later in his career. I'm willing to accept a "regression" of a run a game or even a little more...heck, under 2 isn't sustainable by anyone any more. It takes too much luck. Hitters have a lot more tools available to them nowadays, too....if they're smart enough to use them. As far as the walks go...WHEN they happen is more important than the overall ratio...
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Post by trav768 on Jun 5, 2016 20:28:07 GMT -5
I actually think that its a good thing that Arrieta lost today. he may not admit to it, but can you imagine the pressure he was under to go out there start after start to pitch great every time. now that he lost a game he can breathe a sigh of relief that the pressure is off of his shoulders. his last few starts he may have been trying to hard, now he can relax and be the Arrieta again.
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Post by holycow23 on Jun 6, 2016 3:20:34 GMT -5
On the home stand the cubs were 8 and 2 with the 2 loses being jake's starts. He should realize that he isn't under as much pressure as someone like kershaw because their is alot of help around him. Looked like he was trying to do to much today and his velocity was higher than normal. Maybe overthrowing. Ran up his pitch count way to early. But in both games if the offense would have put any runs on the board he would have won.But still the staff overall this season has been stellar and beyond belief.
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Post by batman66 on Jun 6, 2016 7:45:55 GMT -5
Before todays start though, 1 stat that had me a bit concerned was his walks. He had 25 walks to 75 SO. Thats before this game. Hopefully he gets back on his winning ways. This isnt a doom and gloom thread about Jake. just the opposite. The staff is doing just fine and dandy... Nobody on this site would call it doom and gloom. I think he's just a workout freak who happens to be a pitcher, and a late bloomer because of the worst coaching of all time in Baltimore which cost him years, but because of his work ethic he will be relevant later in his career. I'm willing to accept a "regression" of a run a game or even a little more...heck, under 2 isn't sustainable by anyone any more. It takes too much luck. Hitters have a lot more tools available to them nowadays, too....if they're smart enough to use them. As far as the walks go...WHEN they happen is more important than the overall ratio... Well we all should have expected him to have a bad outing every now and then, and his bad outings really haven't been all that bad. Nobody should have expected him to stay on the historic run he was on, that just doesn't happen, it's historic for a reason. He's showing he is human. The guy just lost his first regular season game in 11 months and he K'd 12 in 5 innings doing it, his other loss prior, his team got no hit. So people (not you) need to chill out that are starting to worry. But yeah, the rest of the rotation has been great so far , but again with that, people should not expect that to go on forever. You're not going to have all 5 starters with ERA's under 3.
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Post by Corndog on Jun 6, 2016 8:53:22 GMT -5
Exactly, what Arrieta was doing wasn't going to last forever. He has seemed to regress in the last few starts, but this was inevitable. Personally, I rather have him get a rough patch out of the way at this point in the season than in the postseason. Still it's not like he has a terribly outing yesterday, just by his standards.
But interesting enough, the walks were mentioned, but that was not the issue at all yesterday.
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Post by zegometer on Jun 6, 2016 10:13:18 GMT -5
For some reason I don't recall many cutters yesterday... Many many 4 seamers. Wasn't feeling it or was I just not watching close enough?
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Post by TheChico on Jun 6, 2016 11:44:49 GMT -5
Nobody on this site would call it doom and gloom. I think he's just a workout freak who happens to be a pitcher, and a late bloomer because of the worst coaching of all time in Baltimore which cost him years, but because of his work ethic he will be relevant later in his career. I'm willing to accept a "regression" of a run a game or even a little more...heck, under 2 isn't sustainable by anyone any more. It takes too much luck. Hitters have a lot more tools available to them nowadays, too....if they're smart enough to use them. As far as the walks go...WHEN they happen is more important than the overall ratio... Well we all should have expected him to have a bad outing every now and then, and his bad outings really haven't been all that bad. Nobody should have expected him to stay on the historic run he was on, that just doesn't happen, it's historic for a reason. He's showing he is human. The guy just lost his first regular season game in 11 months and he K'd 12 in 5 innings doing it, his other loss prior, his team got no hit. So people (not you) need to chill out that are starting to worry. But yeah, the rest of the rotation has been great so far , but again with that, people should not expect that to go on forever. You're not going to have all 5 starters with ERA's under 3. YEP! There is NEVER going to be a pitcher that goes undefeated during the regular, all pitchers have bad starts here and there, and we should be lucky that Jake bad start is 5 innings pitched giving up 3 runs on 12K's, he just had some bad luck yesterday when the hitters did make contact the ball found a holes, it was bound to happen sooner than later. He is a gamer and will bounce back.
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Post by mel10 on Jun 6, 2016 12:37:49 GMT -5
I loved how Jake said that he will start a new streak.
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