The 'How bad the Cardinal's really are' thread.

[jsnhbe1]

Here is a fun fact: the Cardinals best starting pitcher thus far, jaime garcia, has an ERA of 3.47. The Cubs worst starting pitcher thus far, john lackey, has an ERA of 3.16.

Jake Arrieta - 1.72
Jon Lester - 2.48
John Lackey - 3.16 (after today's game is included)
Jason Hammel - 2.17
Kyle Hendricks - 2.93

All of the Cubs starters are averaging at least 6 innings per start. Some even more.

For comparison:

Adam Wainwright - 5.71
Carlos Martinez - 4.25
Michael Wacha - 5.04
Mike Leake - 3.90
Jaime Garcia - 3.47

Mike Leake is the only Cardinals starter averaging at least 6 innings per game. Wainwright, Martinez, Wacha, and Garcia are all under 6 innings per start.

They are lucky they are 26-25 because they are not good with that starting pitching coupled with their bad defense.  They are being bailed out by their offense.  They are currently three games out of the playoffs, however.

[Deleted]

This aint the Cards of old thats for sure. Guess Jason was right when he said he wanted to play with a younger core, and one thats wins alot to. Cards may make the playoffs as a wildcard were anything can happen, but no skin off my back for that team. Wont be going to far anyway even if they do make it....

On a side note, were the Cards given any punishment yet for the Cards-Astro gate?

[jsnhbe1]

No they have not. Popular speculation is they will be stripped of at least one draft pick and fined.

[zegometer]

May 29, 2016 19:49:59 GMT -5 jsnhbe1 said:

No they have not. Popular speculation is they will be stripped of at least one draft pick and fined.

the Cardinals are so bad that they were forced to sign Mike Leake to a 5 year $80 million dollar contract because their stars jumped ship to the Cubs and they had to try and save face for the fan base.

[ecky23]

Well, good thing for StL that they have the best fans in baseball. Those folks really appreciate the subtle nuance of the game, like applauding when your starting pitcher uses his glove-hand to get medieval on the gatorade cooler, after getting lit up like a pinball machine again. They are students of the game, every last one of them. Aren't they something?

[toddd240]

They certainly have a starting pitching problem. Scoring runs really isn't their problem........goes to show you that starting pitching means so much in Baseball.

[tehmpus]

The Cardinals are so bad, that instead of stealing just one cookie from the jar... they took the whole jar.

[toddd240]

May 30, 2016 13:00:46 GMT -5 tehmpus said:

The Cardinals are so bad, that instead of stealing just one cookie from the jar... they took the whole jar.

I would post a picture of Gene Rayburn but it wasn't that funny......

[bbuck22]

May 30, 2016 17:29:41 GMT -5 toddd240 said:

May 30, 2016 13:00:46 GMT -5 tehmpus said:

The Cardinals are so bad, that instead of stealing just one cookie from the jar... they took the whole jar.

I would post a picture of Gene Rayburn but it wasn't that funny......

Lol Match Game