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Post by Drav on Dec 27, 2023 11:28:28 GMT -5
Writers are releasing who they voted for in the 2024 HoF class.
Bobby Abreu
Torii Hunter
Alex Rodriguez
Jose Bautista
Andruw Jones
Francisco Rodriguez
Carlos Beltran
Victor Martinez
Jimmy Rollins
Adrian Beltre
Joe Mauer
Gary Sheffield
Mark Buehrle
Andy Pettitte
James Shields
Bartolo Colon
Brandon Phillips
Chase Utley
Adrian Gonzalez
Many Ramirez
Omar Vizquel
Todd Helton
Jose Reyes
Billy Wagner
Matt Holliday
David Wright
So if you had a ballot who would you be voting for? You can vote for up to 10. Dont have to use all 10.
My Ballot would be Wagner, Vizquel, Mauer, Beltre, F. Rodriguez, A. Jones, and Utley
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Post by batman66 on Dec 27, 2023 12:25:53 GMT -5
Writers are releasing who they voted for in the 2024 HoF class. Bobby Abreu Torii Hunter Alex Rodriguez Jose Bautista Andruw Jones Francisco Rodriguez Carlos Beltran Victor Martinez Jimmy Rollins Adrian Beltre Joe Mauer Gary Sheffield Mark Buehrle Andy Pettitte James Shields Bartolo Colon Brandon Phillips Chase Utley Adrian Gonzalez Many Ramirez Omar Vizquel Todd Helton Jose Reyes Billy Wagner Matt Holliday David Wright So if you had a ballot who would you be voting for? You can vote for up to 10. Dont have to use all 10. My Ballot would be Wagner, Vizquel, Mauer, Beltre, F. Rodriguez, A. Jones, and Utley Tough one , my only sure vote is Wagner who should have already been in . The guy has a career ERA barely over 2 (2.39) and has 423 saves 7 all star teams, gotten MVP votes in 2 seasons, and finished in the top 6 in CY Young twice ......how is he not in ? The others I all have some sort of issue with but I'd probably give a vote to Holliday has the Coors thing , but he ended up playing longer in STL than he did Colorado and his STL numbers were not Coors like but they were still very good .293 avg .874 ops and he got MVP votes in 8 of the 15 seasons he played and MVP votes to me weigh a lot in considering a guy for the HALL. Manny Ramirez , has the PED thing , but others are in who I believe used and his numbers are very worthy .312 career average , .411 OBP , 555 homers and MVP votes in 11 of 19 years including a 9 straight year run and get this a CAREER .996 OPS , guys kill for having an OPS like that once in a career. and he only struck out more than 140 times once. And I think that might be it , I'm sure I will hear it's not fair to give a vote to Manny and not AROD , but I don't care, I liked Manny alot , I am tempted on AROD though , hard to overlook the numbers roids or not. |
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Post by bryzzobrist on Dec 27, 2023 16:39:32 GMT -5
How many Ramirez are we talkin'?
Some of those names are kinda surpring, but Manny, Utley, Andru, Wagner, a couple others should make it in I'd think.
If Ortiz made it and it's a done deal- let's let the roiders in then. A-Rod is too good to not be in the hall.
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Post by batman66 on Dec 27, 2023 17:39:32 GMT -5
How many Ramirez are we talkin'? Some of those names are kinda surpring, but Manny, Utley, Andru, Wagner, a couple others should make it in I'd think. If Ortiz made it and it's a done deal- let's let the roiders in then. A-Rod is too good to not be in the hall. I don't think they can let AROD in until they let Bonds in , both are too blatant users , but both do belong , but they also have the A-Hole factor working against them , where everybody seemed to love big Popi most people thought Bonds and AROD were tools. |
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Post by bryzzobrist on Dec 27, 2023 18:19:41 GMT -5
How many Ramirez are we talkin'? Some of those names are kinda surpring, but Manny, Utley, Andru, Wagner, a couple others should make it in I'd think. If Ortiz made it and it's a done deal- let's let the roiders in then. A-Rod is too good to not be in the hall. I don't think they can let AROD in until they let Bonds in , both are too blatant users , but both do belong , but they also have the A-Hole factor working against them , where everybody seemed to love big Popi most people thought Bonds and AROD were tools. A-Rod is on current ballot, so that's the difference. The other roiders and misc offenders will be allowed into the hall eventually. There's some type of old-timers committee that I can't recall that can make it happen.
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Post by TheChico on Dec 27, 2023 18:41:12 GMT -5
My picks: **NO A-ROD until at least Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Shilling, Sheifield and Sosa gets in first which they should be in**
Andruw Jones *BEST DEFENSIVE CF OF ALL TIME**
Adrian Beltre **.273/.339/.480, 477 Homers while playing elite defense at 3B**
Joe Mauer **numbers are not eye popping except 2009 (Roids?), but overall .306/.388/.439 for a everyday catcher is very impressive.**
Gary Sheffield *his swing alone should be in the HOF*
Manny Ramirez
Billy Wagner *no idea what the debate is why he is not in the HOF yet*
Todd Helton
Who I think will get voted in:
Joe Mauer, Beltre *Media loved him* and Helton.
Wagner and Jones miss again for some stupid ass reason.
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Post by bryzzobrist on Dec 27, 2023 18:55:15 GMT -5
Mcguire, Sheffield and Sosa are chumps compared to A-rod =)
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Post by TheChico on Dec 27, 2023 19:11:41 GMT -5
Mcguire, Sheffield and Sosa are chumps compared to A-rod =) A-Rod was a chump compared the great Nefi Perez though. - Dusty Baker |
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Post by bryzzobrist on Dec 27, 2023 20:00:49 GMT -5
Mcguire, Sheffield and Sosa are chumps compared to A-rod =) A-Rod was a chump compared the great Nefi Perez though. - Dusty Baker Neifi's stats remind me of DD Lucky, lucky players getting to have such a long career. |
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Post by chubbycub on Dec 27, 2023 20:52:44 GMT -5
Jimmy Rollins??? Jimmy ROLLINS???
I gotta call Stephen A. about this.....
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Post by bryzzobrist on Dec 27, 2023 21:09:29 GMT -5
Jimmy Rollins??? Jimmy ROLLINS??? I gotta call Stephen A. about this..... I wouldn't vote for him but he wouldn't be the lowest perfomer in the hall That was my initial reaction tori hunter, lol Is jose bautista the scrub-est of the bunch? |
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Post by chubbycub on Dec 27, 2023 21:34:02 GMT -5
Jimmy Rollins??? Jimmy ROLLINS??? I gotta call Stephen A. about this..... I wouldn't vote for him but he wouldn't be the lowest perfomer in the hall That was my initial reaction tori hunter, lol Is jose bautista the scrub-est of the bunch? I just remember Rollins as maybe one of the top at his position for MAYBE four years. Ya gotta do it for longer than that. But I'm old school. Uuuurrn it. Or yearn it. |
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Post by lajoiesghost on Dec 29, 2023 10:16:49 GMT -5
One guy who really should be in the HOF is Curt Flood. He had a good career and although his numbers aren't really HOF worthy, his contribution to baseball certainly is. He changed the game possibly more than any other individual. We have umpires, managers, executives, broadcasters in the hall. Although I should poke my eyes out for suggesting a Cardinal, Flood should be in.
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Post by batman66 on Dec 29, 2023 10:42:27 GMT -5
One guy who really should be in the HOF is Curt Flood. He had a good career and although his numbers aren't really HOF worthy, his contribution to baseball certainly is. He changed the game possibly more than any other individual. We have umpires, managers, executives, broadcasters in the hall. Although I should poke my eyes out for suggesting a Cardinal, Flood should be in. Nah , HOF criteria for his era was way different , it pretty much was either hit 500 homers or have an ungodly batting average and play 20 years or more. He only played 15 years and he cartainly didn't qualify for the HR number, he didn't greatly exceed that number in RBI's 85 homers 636 rbi's .294 avg .732 ops and he only stole 88 bases. I get the aspect of what you mentioned about changing the game , he's a pioneer, not a HOF player. |
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Post by batman66 on Jan 23, 2024 20:12:31 GMT -5
Beltre 95.1
Helton 79.7
Mauer 76.1 all elected
Wagner just misses 73.8
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