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Post by batman66 on Jan 20, 2023 13:09:00 GMT -5
Baseball Prospectus has their top 100 out. Three Cubs on it, but looks a little different than some of what we’ve seen thus far. 28. PCA 80. Caissie 88. Mervis Interesting. This tells me two things, that of course every evaluator/ranking system has its own methodology behind it, so outside of the top 20 or so things can look wildly different from one list to the other. And the other? The Cubs are knocking on the door. PCA, Alcantara, Mervis, Caissie all getting love in the top 100, while Davis and Canario are likely to make their re-appearance after they can prove they are healthy and back on the field. And those are just the position players. Lots of pitchers hopefully start cracking these lists as they promote to AA-AAA. They will release the Cubs top 10 on the 27th |
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Post by fine09 on Jan 20, 2023 13:49:55 GMT -5
Baseball Prospectus has their top 100 out. Three Cubs on it, but looks a little different than some of what we’ve seen thus far. 28. PCA 80. Caissie 88. Mervis Interesting. This tells me two things, that of course every evaluator/ranking system has its own methodology behind it, so outside of the top 20 or so things can look wildly different from one list to the other. And the other? The Cubs are knocking on the door. PCA, Alcantara, Mervis, Caissie all getting love in the top 100, while Davis and Canario are likely to make their re-appearance after they can prove they are healthy and back on the field. And those are just the position players. Lots of pitchers hopefully start cracking these lists as they promote to AA-AAA. Interesting , and glad to see Mervis in a top 100 and surprised to see Caissie higher than him at this point because he did not have a great 2022 but BBP does love them some Caissie, they had him at # 67 last season so it was a bit of a drop for him. Mervis was considered the 3rd. best 1st baseman in MiLB system & expected to crack the top 1oo very soon. I am pumped about our system & the same article that had Mervis the 3rd. best also mentioned that although the Cubs only have 3 in the top 100 they probably have 7 in the top 150 to 175 which is even more important.. |
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Post by batman66 on Jan 20, 2023 14:00:09 GMT -5
Interesting , and glad to see Mervis in a top 100 and surprised to see Caissie higher than him at this point because he did not have a great 2022 but BBP does love them some Caissie, they had him at # 67 last season so it was a bit of a drop for him. Mervis was considered the 3rd. best 1st baseman in MiLB system & expected to crack the top 1oo very soon. I am pumped about our system & the same article that had Mervis the 3rd. best also mentioned that although the Cubs only have 3 in the top 100 they probably have 7 in the top 150 to 175 which is even more important.. And the top 100 lists always seem to heavily favor position players pver pitchers and you NEVER see potential high impact pen arms considered and the Cubs have a shitload of them. |
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Post by batman66 on Jan 20, 2023 19:43:05 GMT -5
I saw a list of Cubs that were considered for Baseball America's top 100 that did not make it , it was on Chicago Cubs Top Prospects page on Facebook.
Not in order , looks alphabetical , Ben Brown , Christian Hernandez, Cade Horton , Matt Mervis, Hayden Wesneski
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Post by batman66 on Jan 21, 2023 14:15:14 GMT -5
This from North Side Bound on Facebook about the 4 high school pitchers the Cubs drafted last June,
VERY encouraging stuff.
For Ferris, he is a top of the rotation type starter and something the Cubs really haven’t had it in his system yet. It’s kind of strange to know what to think of what to do without him having thrown a pitch yet.
When it comes to Mule, his ceiling is written in pencil. He has an incredible skill set that could see him become a pitcher or a hitter. The Cubs are going to let him play both this year and we will see where that takes him.
Ideally, we might Ferris start the year at Myrtle Beach. I’m hearing behind the scenes that McGwire may also be ready for that level too based on his development this off-season. Mule and Rujano could be going to go to Arizona. However, all bet are off when spring training starts. We will see how they do in that setting before they move onto the next one
As for McGwire, he already has a plus-plus splitter that he learned from Rollie Fingers, and he supposedly has been gaining velocity by leaps and bounds this winter by following his development plan.
Rujano is sort of the dark horse here. It’s rare to get a polished prep pitcher and then polish him up some more and build him up. So it’s a little unclear what his ceiling is at this point.
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Post by holycow23 on Jan 21, 2023 18:31:29 GMT -5
i was shocked when the cubs drafted Cade Horton. First I was upset they didn't draft Parada. But there is a very strong chance he doesn't stick at catcher and now it is very obvious the cubs philosophy is to not go with a bat first catcher. Also there were some mocks that had cubs doing a underslot with Zach Neto. Neto spent all of 7 games in high A before being promoted to double A where he hit .320 in 30 games. He would be another one besides Brooks Lee that would look really good right now. Neto pitched in college and had mid 90s fastball so he definitely has the arm to transition to third base. Lee probably will not hit for enough power for a typical 3rd basemen, but he would be a solid defender who hit from the left side and will probably hit over .300 about every year. So I really hope the cubs know what they are doing being so focused on pitching in this draft.
I did go back and watch Horton's last four starts. His command of his breaking stuff was impressive. When his fastball sat at 94 his command was very good. when he hit 96 he was kinda overthrowing a little. So he kinda pitched backwards and hitters didn't know what was coming and he mowed right through 4 very good veteran college teams. I listened to an interview with his college coach and he compaired his demeanor on the mound to Mad Max. Just a hyper competitor who as a former quarterback has the mentality of the team needs to jump on my back and I will lead us down field.
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Post by kfidd on Jan 21, 2023 19:12:49 GMT -5
i was shocked when the cubs drafted Cade Horton. First I was upset they didn't draft Parada. But there is a very strong chance he doesn't stick at catcher and now it is very obvious the cubs philosophy is to not go with a bat first catcher. Also there were some mocks that had cubs doing a underslot with Zach Neto. Neto spent all of 7 games in high A before being promoted to double A where he hit .320 in 30 games. He would be another one besides Brooks Lee that would look really good right now. Neto pitched in college and had mid 90s fastball so he definitely has the arm to transition to third base. Lee probably will not hit for enough power for a typical 3rd basemen, but he would be a solid defender who hit from the left side and will probably hit over .300 about every year. So I really hope the cubs know what they are doing being so focused on pitching in this draft. I did go back and watch Horton's last four starts. His command of his breaking stuff was impressive. When his fastball sat at 94 his command was very good. when he hit 96 he was kinda overthrowing a little. So he kinda pitched backwards and hitters didn't know what was coming and he mowed right through 4 very good veteran college teams. I listened to an interview with his college coach and he compaired his demeanor on the mound to Mad Max. Just a hyper competitor who as a former quarterback has the mentality of the team needs to jump on my back and I will lead us down field. Thanks for the added insight there on Horton. Good things to hear. A lot of what I’ve read suggests he is extremely composed and could make his way to Wrigley relatively quickly. It’s possible we won’t have to wait terribly long to start really judging that pick one way or the other. |
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Post by batman66 on Jan 23, 2023 22:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jan 24, 2023 18:37:17 GMT -5
I told you guys about the top 100 and Cubs.
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Post by batman66 on Jan 24, 2023 20:42:43 GMT -5
I told you guys about the top 100 and Cubs. And you are wrong, BBA lists three Cubs , and not one of the two you said. They also had 5 others that were considered. Read the story I linked. It tells you much more than just one list. |
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Post by batman66 on Jan 24, 2023 20:45:12 GMT -5
I told you guys about the top 100 and Cubs. This is BBA , not sure what they hell you looked at ? So no, you did not tell us. They had a total of 8 considered. For the Cubs, who placed PCA, Brennen Davis, and Kevin Alcántara on the top 100, Matt Mervis shows up in the group of 15 who just missed: Matt Mervis, 1B, Cubs: After a standout 2022 and a strong showing in the Arizona Fall League, Mervis earned serious consideration for the Top 100 but ultimately fell just short. A nondrafted free agent in 2020, Mervis rebounded from a poor full-season debut in 2021 to hit the third-most home runs in the minor leagues in 2022. Across three levels Mervis hit 36 home runs while slashing .309/.379/.605 over 137 games. He pairs above-average bat-to-ball skills (76% contact rate) with plus power (105 mph 90th percentile) and has the profile of an everyday power-hitting first baseman. Among the other Cubs prospects who were considered: Righty Ben Brown, shortstop Cristian Hernández, righty Cade Horton, and righty Hayden Wesneski. Read the story I linked. |
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Post by fine09 on Jan 24, 2023 20:48:18 GMT -5
I told you guys about the top 100 and Cubs. You tell us a lot of stuff. You’re overdue to be right one of these days.. |
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Post by fine09 on Jan 24, 2023 21:09:28 GMT -5
I told you guys about the top 100 and Cubs. This is BBA , not sure what they hell you looked at ? So no, you did not tell us. They had a total of 8 considered. For the Cubs, who placed PCA, Brennen Davis, and Kevin Alcántara on the top 100, Matt Mervis shows up in the group of 15 who just missed: Matt Mervis, 1B, Cubs: After a standout 2022 and a strong showing in the Arizona Fall League, Mervis earned serious consideration for the Top 100 but ultimately fell just short. A nondrafted free agent in 2020, Mervis rebounded from a poor full-season debut in 2021 to hit the third-most home runs in the minor leagues in 2022. Across three levels Mervis hit 36 home runs while slashing .309/.379/.605 over 137 games. He pairs above-average bat-to-ball skills (76% contact rate) with plus power (105 mph 90th percentile) and has the profile of an everyday power-hitting first baseman. Among the other Cubs prospects who were considered: Righty Ben Brown, shortstop Cristian Hernández, righty Cade Horton, and righty Hayden Wesneski. Read the story I linked. It won’t make a difference to folks who have already locked into a POV no matter what new info is available. Similar to a hard liner in either political party, when opposing views are presented instead of listening they are forming their comeback.. |
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Jan 24, 2023 21:15:21 GMT -5
I told you guys about the top 100 and Cubs. You tell us a lot of stuff. You’re overdue to be right one of these days.. you’re pretty wrong most of the time so there’s that…. |
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Post by batman66 on Jan 24, 2023 21:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by TheChico on Jan 24, 2023 21:58:05 GMT -5
Cubs have one of the deepest farms in all of baseball and love what they are doing, because most of these guys are not top 100 does not mean they can't be good major league players one day and good chunk of these guys who missed the top 100 can easily show up on the just with a strong showing in 2023 alone.
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Post by lu13cubbie on Jan 25, 2023 10:01:40 GMT -5
Wahoo!! More good news! I'm so pumped about this coming season that I've been looking at different TV packages so I can get Marquee network. That's a big deal and change for my family, in this neck of the woods. |
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Post by fine09 on Jan 25, 2023 10:02:02 GMT -5
Cubs have one of the deepest farms in all of baseball and love what they are doing, because most of these guys are not top 100 does not mean they can't be good major league players one day and good chunk of these guys who missed the top 100 can easily show up on the just with a strong showing in 2023 alone. I see that both Anthony Kay & Manuel Rodriguez went unclaimed & are now back with the Cubs MiLB system. Very nice. |
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Post by fine09 on Jan 25, 2023 10:02:43 GMT -5
You tell us a lot of stuff. You’re overdue to be right one of these days.. you’re pretty wrong most of the time so there’s that…. Okay |
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Post by batman66 on Jan 25, 2023 21:17:35 GMT -5
PCA lands at #7 on MLB Pipeline top OF prospects
The Top 10 (ETA)
1. Corbin Carroll, D-backs (2023)
2. Jordan Walker, Cardinals (2023)
3. Jackson Chourio, Brewers (2024)
4. Druw Jones, D-backs (2026)
5. James Wood, Nationals (2025)
6. Zac Veen, Rockies (2024)
7. Pete Crow-Armstrong, Cubs (2024)
8. Sal Frelick, Brewers (2023)
9. Robert Hassell III, Nationals (2024)
10. Colton Cowser, Orioles (2023)
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