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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 16:07:47 GMT -5
While im not upset with our pen i am alittle concerned. Seem to be walking more guys rather than going after the other team.....Wood, Strop and Grimm....Can be scary. I just want the pen to settle down and get back in its groove. Go after batters..... If the ubs address anything before the deadline, i hope its a releiver....
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Post by pablovi on May 15, 2016 18:53:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I am, they're right in the middle of the MLB. And they should be above average.
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Post by jerm42991 on May 15, 2016 19:37:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I am, they're right in the middle of the MLB. And they should be above average. 8th in MLB is now considered in the middle? |
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Post by pablovi on May 15, 2016 20:23:25 GMT -5
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Post by 2bbeckert on May 15, 2016 20:50:38 GMT -5
Any concerns Theo will fix.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 21:17:12 GMT -5
They are allowing an OPS of ,636 which is 6th in baseball. I'm not all that worried.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 22:39:41 GMT -5
While im not upset with our pen i am alittle concerned. Seem to be walking more guys rather than going after the other team.....Wood, Strop and Grimm....Can be scary. I just want the pen to settle down and get back in its groove. Go after batters..... If the ubs address anything before the deadline, i hope its a releiver.... They do seem to be in a funk right now. Hopefully, they'll pull out of it soon. I recall there being a few down spells last year. |
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Post by zegometer on May 16, 2016 6:37:47 GMT -5
Besides getting a left handed specialist at some point this year, I'm pretty content with our bullpen staff as a whole
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Post by Corndog on May 16, 2016 9:49:32 GMT -5
While im not upset with our pen i am alittle concerned. Seem to be walking more guys rather than going after the other team.....Wood, Strop and Grimm....Can be scary. I just want the pen to settle down and get back in its groove. Go after batters..... If the ubs address anything before the deadline, i hope its a releiver.... I do agree, the Cubs could use some help in the pen, mainly a left handed specialist. Strop has been more good than bad throughout his career with the Cubs, just seems to be in a funk. Richards has absolutely nothing left, hopefully someone in AAA can come up some time soon to replace him. Grimm needs to find his good self as well. Hopefully Wood can be traded, if he stills has any value as a 5th starter. What is seems to be is Maddon is giving the struggling pitchers more time with the big leads to get them back on track. If there were more close games, I'm betting we would see the starters go longer, with more Warren, Cahill and Rondon. |
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Post by mel10 on May 16, 2016 10:12:25 GMT -5
Any concerns Theo will fix. Yep. |
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Post by icewatkins on May 16, 2016 11:24:30 GMT -5
They'll improve the pen at the deadline. The current bullpen looks to be just fine as far as the regular season is concerned but leaves some to be desired when you look at what the 'pen should be able to do in the postseason. Richard is bad and will be gone soon. Travis Wood is nothing special and he isn't someone I'd like to trust in a postseason game. Cahill is up in the air but has looked pretty good to me. Strop, Grimm and Rondon are very solid despite the occasional Marmol-esque walk-a-thon.
I am not concerned, but do fully expect Theo and Jed to add one or two reliable arms by the time the playoffs begin.
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Post by chifan89 on May 16, 2016 12:00:45 GMT -5
Wood is worse than Richards.
I'd like to get a lefty specialist and another back-end of the pen guy before the deadline. Grimm is always bad early in the season and usually becomes shut down quality around mid season. Strop has rough stretches. Rondon is incredible. Warren has been solid.
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Post by willybilliams on May 16, 2016 12:16:33 GMT -5
I think Warren has been as good as advertised. Very solid and dependable... I like him. With him, Strop and Grimm we're very respectable from the right side.... and Hector is locked into the 9th and I don't worry about him despite yesterday..... As some have said - adding Miller or another arm or 2 from the left side is what will likely happen IMO.
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Post by tehmpus on May 16, 2016 12:58:50 GMT -5
I'm a bit concerned that Theo will cave in to this "win now" mode talk. He promised us sustained success. Trading young guys for a reliever and adding payroll is counterproductive to that end.
Financial aspects matter in trades. If you add another high dollar amount to the payroll, then you might as well forget about any realistic chance to sign our best pitcher to an extension. These young players will need extensions in 3 years or so. Right now, we really don't NEED anything. We do need a capable starter at the AAA level, someone who can be depended on when 3/5ths of our rotation disappears in two years. We don't have that guy. Maybe Warren could take one spot, but that still leaves two big holes in the starting rotation in a free agent market where starters are hard to come by. Strassburg was pretty much the only legit starter in next years free agent market. He signed an extension already with the Nationals. More and more superstars are resigning with their teams to extensions. We need to plan out the finances, so we can keep our own stars, then build from within to fill the holes.
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Post by zegometer on May 16, 2016 16:15:40 GMT -5
I was think more along the lines of a Ryan Buchter (SD) than a Miller... Much cheaper w salary and much lesser prospects to give up as well...
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 19:37:15 GMT -5
i'd like to see gerardo concepcion get a shot at some point. he's killing it so far this year and already in the org. edwards too.
would certainly want more experience for the playoffs though.
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Post by willybilliams on May 16, 2016 20:26:36 GMT -5
I'm a bit concerned that Theo will cave in to this "win now" mode talk. He promised us sustained success. Trading young guys for a reliever and adding payroll is counterproductive to that end. Financial aspects matter in trades. If you add another high dollar amount to the payroll, then you might as well forget about any realistic chance to sign our best pitcher to an extension. These young players will need extensions in 3 years or so. Right now, we really don't NEED anything. We do need a capable starter at the AAA level, someone who can be depended on when 3/5ths of our rotation disappears in two years. We don't have that guy. Maybe Warren could take one spot, but that still leaves two big holes in the starting rotation in a free agent market where starters are hard to come by. Strassburg was pretty much the only legit starter in next years free agent market. He signed an extension already with the Nationals. More and more superstars are resigning with their teams to extensions. We need to plan out the finances, so we can keep our own stars, then build from within to fill the holes. I believe part of building up the minor league system is to put yourself into a position of being able to go "all in" ... And I don't think it goes against the plan at all.. Maybe it'll be a "lesser" add... But I'm confident Theo and crew are always trying to find ways to improve the roster AND the entire system... Everything is calculated. |
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Post by willybilliams on May 16, 2016 20:27:30 GMT -5
Btw Strasburg recently extended with Washington so he's no longer an option.
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Post by Corndog on May 19, 2016 9:27:35 GMT -5
Hopefully last night built Wood's confidence. He's been off for a while, but last year did do well starting in the bullpen games. For the most they have been good, but Ramirez and Richards are probably done.
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Post by chifan89 on May 21, 2016 0:38:11 GMT -5
I just want reiterate to everyone that wood is worse than Richards.
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