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Post by groomsy on May 11, 2016 18:06:57 GMT -5
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Post by fine09 on May 11, 2016 18:43:21 GMT -5
Nor should he. He is right to want to be compensated fairly, just as his peers have been (and right now Jake doesn't have many peers). That being said, I believe he will sign a fair extension with the Cubs but he will make what the other TOR pitchers are making which is 25 plus per year. The Cardinals signed Mike Leake for 5 years at 18 mil per & he isn't better than any of our starters.. That's just the going rate whether we like it or not..
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Post by 2bbeckert on May 11, 2016 18:51:07 GMT -5
Right now I'm worried about extending Theo.
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Post by jsnhbe1 on May 11, 2016 18:53:08 GMT -5
I'd be ecstatic with 6/165 (27.5), he deserves to be compensated more than Strasburg's 25, but I'd be fine with 6/180 (30), which I think he'll sign for. Anything longer than six and more than 30 you really have to think about.
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Post by jerm42991 on May 11, 2016 19:20:23 GMT -5
Its not the popular decision but I honestly let him walk. I have a feeling you will see a pretty big declines 2-3 years into the extension and be screwed for the rest of it
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 20:19:58 GMT -5
Its not the popular decision but I honestly let him walk. I have a feeling you will see a pretty big declines 2-3 years into the extension and be screwed for the rest of it Im not much better but 6 at 30 million.....Deserving of it Absolutely. If i were Theo would i give him that much. Probably not. The last few years COULD be an albatross....I know pitching is at a prime, but Greinke comes to mind right now....Not so good. And Mr Soler needs to go down to AAA for a few weeks to...imo.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 20:22:59 GMT -5
Arrieta said "aces get 7 years" -- just as Strasburg got -- so think of that as a starting point. And think $200 million as one, as well.
Ah, No Thank you.
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Post by bbuck22 on May 11, 2016 20:26:23 GMT -5
Sorry but I am not giving him 7 years.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 20:32:11 GMT -5
Sorry but I am not giving him 7 years. I wouldnt either. Not at that kind of money for that length of time. If the Cubs didnt let him be " himself" as he said, i doubt he's pitching the way he is now. Im not saying the Cubs should get a Hometown discount, but alittle appreciation,,,maybe a shorter 5-6 year deal? Otherwise if he's still with Baltimore, is he even in a position to get that top of money. Hell no he's not,
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Post by jsnhbe1 on May 11, 2016 20:37:05 GMT -5
I think enough has been said by jske in the past that he would go 6. No less thiugh.
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Post by Buckyball on May 11, 2016 22:11:43 GMT -5
Its not the popular decision but I honestly let him walk. I have a feeling you will see a pretty big declines 2-3 years into the extension and be screwed for the rest of it Yeah but, so what, if you get a couple of rings along the way.
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Post by Buckyball on May 11, 2016 22:13:05 GMT -5
That's the agreement the players have with each other and the union. What Jake says to a reporter may not align with what Jake really thinks.
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Post by cubbies85 on May 11, 2016 22:26:54 GMT -5
Jake will be 32 at the start of his new deal. Having to pay him 30 million a year until his 39 is a tough pill to swallow. If he was 27 or 28 you lock him for 7/210 now easily but he's not. Best case scenario is to get a WS win by 2017 and then let the Yankees or Red Sox give him the money he wants.
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Post by batman66 on May 12, 2016 9:13:33 GMT -5
Arrieta said "aces get 7 years" -- just as Strasburg got -- so think of that as a starting point. And think $200 million as one, as well. Ah, No Thank you. He wanted 7 years before Strasburg got his , so I'm sure that didn't help the Cubs case for hoping he'd settle for less.
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Post by jerm42991 on May 12, 2016 9:26:44 GMT -5
Jake will be 32 at the start of his new deal. Having to pay him 30 million a year until his 39 is a tough pill to swallow. If he was 27 or 28 you lock him for 7/210 now easily but he's not. Best case scenario is to get a WS win by 2017 and then let the Yankees or Red Sox give him the money he wants. Exactly. Now I would consider doing a short deal at an insane AAV if he would be up for it. 4/160 or something like that(1 year arb, 3 FA years)
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Post by batman66 on May 12, 2016 9:31:08 GMT -5
Jake will be 32 at the start of his new deal. Having to pay him 30 million a year until his 39 is a tough pill to swallow. If he was 27 or 28 you lock him for 7/210 now easily but he's not. Best case scenario is to get a WS win by 2017 and then let the Yankees or Red Sox give him the money he wants. Exactly. Now I would consider doing a short deal at an insane AAV if he would be up for it. 4/160 or something like that(1 year arb, 3 FA years) Yeah, I'd rather they commit shorter with a higher AAV, but for some reason Jake has his sights set on 7 years.
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Post by cubbies85 on May 12, 2016 11:53:53 GMT -5
Jake will be 32 at the start of his new deal. Having to pay him 30 million a year until his 39 is a tough pill to swallow. If he was 27 or 28 you lock him for 7/210 now easily but he's not. Best case scenario is to get a WS win by 2017 and then let the Yankees or Red Sox give him the money he wants. Exactly. Now I would consider doing a short deal at an insane AAV if he would be up for it. 4/160 or something like that(1 year arb, 3 FA years) A 4/160 would absolutely be ideal. Jake gets paid, Cubs get his remaining prime years, even if he declines rapidly or gets hurt at least your not stuck with his contract until his late 30s, and his contract comes off the books by the time the young bats needs extensions. I don't think he will take it which is too bad. If he wants 7 years that's his right to seek, I just hope it's not the Cubs that gives it to him.
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Post by fine09 on May 12, 2016 12:19:04 GMT -5
I'd be ecstatic with 6/165 (27.5), he deserves to be compensated more than Strasburg's 25, but I'd be fine with 6/180 (30), which I think he'll sign for. Anything longer than six and more than 30 you really have to think about. I'd be happy to see a 6 year 180 BUT I want the first year to be 2017.. His first year of FA isn't until 2018. But Jake wants a 7 year & I'm pretty certain that it would begin in 2018. That would be a bad deal & the Cubs have hinted that they also believe so..
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Post by tehmpus on May 12, 2016 12:32:57 GMT -5
Jake is just a lot older than Strassberg. The Cubs would be fools to give him a 7 year deal at this point.
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Post by fine09 on May 12, 2016 13:17:15 GMT -5
Jake is just a lot older than Strassberg. The Cubs would be fools to give him a 7 year deal at this point. Actually he's not.. Jake is 28 months older than him but has the exact amount of innings on his arm that Strasburg does..
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