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Post by rvn11 on Mar 27, 2021 18:19:17 GMT -5
Disappointing to hear Hoerner is going down. Aside from the control issues, I thought he might be the guy to provide good contact and pop without swinging for power. At least there are solid options in Bote, with Sogard backing up.
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Post by sosacorks on Mar 27, 2021 19:31:57 GMT -5
This has 100% to do with gaining another year of control on Hoerner. There is no other reason to send him down when he has a strong spring. Total bullshit! this is Bryant all over again. Hoerner file a grievance and it will take longer for a decision than mlb to investigate the next scandal. I really don't think this is the same as the Bryant situation. Bryant was what everyone thought was a "superstar", So like most every other club has done, they exercised their ability to keep one year of control of him. Hoerner has looked great this spring but at the same time This is spring training and he has very little minor leagueexperience. Bote and Sogard do offer viable major experience over him at this point. Also with the idea that they need to keep an extra pitcher their bench is limited and he has options, whereas the other two don't. Also the other two options are doing very well this spring as well. While I think the Cubs exercised their control to a degree it is nothing like what they did with Bryant. I think it's the best decision right now so he can get consistent at bats. I'm sure if they struggle at 2b he'll be called up.
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Post by Mike on Mar 27, 2021 21:06:48 GMT -5
Still need to add Higgins to the 40-man if they put Romine on the IL. Then, when Romine returns, somebody has to go through waivers...I'd assume it's be Maples if we're splitting hairs over bullpen spots.
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Post by tehmpus on Mar 28, 2021 10:05:56 GMT -5
Passan reports Hoerner optioned and Sogard gets a 40-man spot. If Baez keeps swinging at garbage, maybe they give him reps at SS. This has 100% to do with gaining another year of control on Hoerner. There is no other reason to send him down when he has a strong spring. Total bullshit! And we've got Adbert Alzolay making the team to start the year with an option left. If the Cubs were playing the service time game, he'd be down in the minors too.
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Post by TheChico on Mar 28, 2021 12:25:47 GMT -5
This has 100% to do with gaining another year of control on Hoerner. There is no other reason to send him down when he has a strong spring. Total bullshit! And we've got Adbert Alzolay making the team to start the year with an option left. If the Cubs were playing the service time game, he'd be down in the minors too. Really puzzling moves happening, not a fan of Nico going down after a good spring but it is what it is.
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Post by lu13cubbie on Mar 28, 2021 14:41:54 GMT -5
Alzolay prolly should be sent down. Maybe they're waiting for Iowa's season to start
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Post by Mike on Mar 28, 2021 15:43:19 GMT -5
Vargas out of options... hmmm...
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Post by tehmpus on Mar 28, 2021 17:10:44 GMT -5
Vargas out of options... hmmm... Vargas was let go. Sogard was the better option.
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Post by ddevonb on Mar 28, 2021 17:14:28 GMT -5
Alzolay prolly should be sent down. Maybe they're waiting for Iowa's season to start Alzolay is the 5th starter. If he does well, he's never going down.
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Post by ddevonb on Mar 28, 2021 17:24:23 GMT -5
Still need to add Higgins to the 40-man if they put Romine on the IL. Then, when Romine returns, somebody has to go through waivers...I'd assume it's be Maples if we're splitting hairs over bullpen spots. Now we know that Maples has made the team, so it more likely to someone on the 40 who has the least change of helping them. I think it will be Kohl Stewart... and he will likely clear waivers and be in AAA. Maples would never clear waivers.
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Post by TheChico on Mar 29, 2021 11:14:38 GMT -5
Still need to add Higgins to the 40-man if they put Romine on the IL. Then, when Romine returns, somebody has to go through waivers...I'd assume it's be Maples if we're splitting hairs over bullpen spots. Now we know that Maples has made the team, so it more likely to someone on the 40 who has the least change of helping them. I think it will be Kohl Stewart... and he will likely clear waivers and be in AAA. Maples would never clear waivers. Maples never will clear waivers for sure, but how many more chances will he get with the Cubs? He is out of option and really did not earn a spot on the 26 man roster and only made it on the "What if" factor which is fine but eventually he is going to need to show results, if not then you need to pull the plug at some point especially when it starts costing other players roster spots who likely can help more. Hopefully Maples can finally put it together, but he really did not show anything this spring that he will.
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Post by tehmpus on Mar 29, 2021 19:56:27 GMT -5
Now we know that Maples has made the team, so it more likely to someone on the 40 who has the least change of helping them. I think it will be Kohl Stewart... and he will likely clear waivers and be in AAA. Maples would never clear waivers. Maples never will clear waivers for sure, but how many more chances will he get with the Cubs? He is out of option and really did not earn a spot on the 26 man roster and only made it on the "What if" factor which is fine but eventually he is going to need to show results, if not then you need to pull the plug at some point especially when it starts costing other players roster spots who likely can help more. Hopefully Maples can finally put it together, but he really did not show anything this spring that he will. Correction: He was told to not give up walks and he followed instruction. That's something Chatwood could never do. Now it's up to the coaching staff to get him a good game plan to utilize his stuff in a way that helps him be successful. Maples had demonstrated that he can listen to the coaching, so let's see what happens.
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Post by ddevonb on Mar 29, 2021 20:09:49 GMT -5
Now we know that Maples has made the team, so it more likely to someone on the 40 who has the least change of helping them. I think it will be Kohl Stewart... and he will likely clear waivers and be in AAA. Maples would never clear waivers. Maples never will clear waivers for sure, but how many more chances will he get with the Cubs? He is out of option and really did not earn a spot on the 26 man roster and only made it on the "What if" factor which is fine but eventually he is going to need to show results, if not then you need to pull the plug at some point especially when it starts costing other players roster spots who likely can help more. Hopefully Maples can finally put it together, but he really did not show anything this spring that he will. As I said in another post. The coaches see him every day and we only see him in the games. Their evaluation includes the games but not just the games. We are not in a position to say he did or didn't earn it. During spring training, practice also carries weight in the coaches eyes.
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Post by skokiejoe on Mar 31, 2021 13:07:21 GMT -5
As of March 31st, 2021 Currently 41 on the 40 man 1 need to be cut. * Added since November 1st 2020 13 optioned to the Minors
Pitchers 25 Adam 1 option left Abbott 3 * Iowa Alzolay 1 Arrieta 0 * Brothers 0 * Chafin 0 * Davies 0 * Hendricks 0 Holder 0 * Kimbrel 0 Maples 0 Marquez 3 Tennessee Miller 2 Iowa Mills 0 Rodriguez 3 Tennessee Ryan 1 Iowa Steele 1 Iowa Stewart 2 * Iowa Tepera 0 * Thompson 3 * Tennessee Wick 1 Wieck 1 Iowa Williams 0 * Winkler 1 Workman 0 *
CATCHERS 4 Amaya 2 Tennessee Contreras 0 Romine 0 * Wolters 0 *
INFIELDERS 8 Baez 0 Bote 1 Bryant 0 Duffy 0 * Hoerner 3 Iowa Morel 3 * Tennessee Rizzo 0 Sogard 0 *
OUTFIELDERS 4 Happ 2 Heyward 0 Marisnick 0 * Pederson 0 *
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Post by batman66 on Mar 31, 2021 14:16:38 GMT -5
Maples never will clear waivers for sure, but how many more chances will he get with the Cubs? He is out of option and really did not earn a spot on the 26 man roster and only made it on the "What if" factor which is fine but eventually he is going to need to show results, if not then you need to pull the plug at some point especially when it starts costing other players roster spots who likely can help more. Hopefully Maples can finally put it together, but he really did not show anything this spring that he will. Correction: He was told to not give up walks and he followed instruction. That's something Chatwood could never do. Now it's up to the coaching staff to get him a good game plan to utilize his stuff in a way that helps him be successful. Maples had demonstrated that he can listen to the coaching, so let's see what happens. He didn't exactly "not give up walks" , but I guess 6 in 10 innings is good for him , I'm sure the 16K's made up for a few of those walks.
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Post by tehmpus on Mar 31, 2021 16:57:38 GMT -5
Correction: He was told to not give up walks and he followed instruction. That's something Chatwood could never do. Now it's up to the coaching staff to get him a good game plan to utilize his stuff in a way that helps him be successful. Maples had demonstrated that he can listen to the coaching, so let's see what happens. He didn't exactly "not give up walks" , but I guess 6 in 10 innings is good for him , I'm sure the 16K's made up for a few of those walks. I checked his spring stats when I made that comment, and he had 0 walks at the time.
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Post by skokiejoe on Apr 1, 2021 11:22:13 GMT -5
As of April 1st, 2021 40 man roster is full + 1 on the COVID List. * Added since November 1st 2020 11 optioned to the Minors
Pitchers 25 Adam 1 option left Abbott 3 * Iowa Alzolay 1 Arrieta 0 * Brothers 0 * Chafin 0 * Davies 0 * Hendricks 0 Holder 0 * 10 Day IL Kimbrel 0 Maples 0 Marquez 3 Tennessee Miller 2 COVID Mills 0 Rodriguez 3 Tennessee Ryan 1 Iowa Steele 1 Iowa Stewart 2 * Iowa Tepera 0 * Thompson 3 * Tennessee Wick 1 10 Day IL Wieck 1 Iowa Williams 0 * Winkler 1 Workman 0 *
CATCHERS 4 Amaya 2 Tennessee Contreras 0 Romine 0 * 10 Day IL Wolters 0 *
INFIELDERS 8 Baez 0 Bote 1 Bryant 0 Duffy 0 * Hoerner 3 Iowa Morel 3 * Tennessee Rizzo 0 Sogard 0 *
OUTFIELDERS 4 Happ 2 Heyward 0 Marisnick 0 * Pederson 0 *
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Post by cfin on Apr 13, 2021 10:39:37 GMT -5
How does the Covid list work in regards to the 40-man roster?
Was Strop on the 40 man roster? How did he get added to the active roster without a corresponding 40-man move?
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Post by skokiejoe on Apr 13, 2021 11:07:55 GMT -5
How does the Covid list work in regards to the 40-man roster? Was Strop on the 40 man roster? How did he get added to the active roster without a corresponding 40-man move? If you are on the covid list you do not count toward the 40 man roster. Strop was not on the 40 man roster. I will post an update.
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Post by skokiejoe on Apr 13, 2021 11:14:00 GMT -5
As of April 13th, 2021 38 on the 40 man roster + 5 on the COVID List. * Added since November 1st 2020 9 optioned to the Minors
Pitchers 26 Adam 1 option left COVID IL Abbott 3 * Iowa Alzolay 1 Arrieta 0 * Brothers 0 * Chafin 0 * Davies 0 * Hendricks 0 Holder 0 * 10 Day IL Kimbrel 0 Maples 0 Marquez 3 Tennessee Miller 2 COVID IL Mills 0 Rodriguez 3 Tennessee Ryan 1 Iowa Steele 1 Stewart 2 * Iowa Strop 0 * Tepera 0 * Thompson 3 * Tennessee Wick 1 10 Day IL Wieck 1 Williams 0 * Winkler 1 COVID IL Workman 0 * COVID IL
CATCHERS 4 Amaya 2 Tennessee Contreras 0 Romine 0 * 10 Day IL Wolters 0 *
INFIELDERS 9 Baez 0 Bote 1 Bryant 0 Duffy 0 * COVID IL Hoerner 3 Iowa Morel 3 * Tennessee Rizzo 0 Sogard 0 * Vargas 0 *
OUTFIELDERS 4 Happ 2 Heyward 0 Marisnick 0 * Pederson 0 *
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