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Post by Drav on May 13, 2024 22:48:30 GMT -5
First deal of the season.
Cubs are aquireing Mariners reliever Tyson Miller for If Jake Slaughter.
Miller has a 3.09 era and a 12-1 k to bb ratio so far this year. He was DFA by the Mariners recently. Will be joining the big league club.
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Post by patriot544 on May 13, 2024 23:43:49 GMT -5
Anyone know why someone pitching that well was DFA
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Post by Mike on May 14, 2024 0:20:35 GMT -5
BABIP regression inevitable and they had to make room on the 40-man.
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Post by batman66 on May 14, 2024 6:41:59 GMT -5
Miller is out of options so they will need to add him to the 40 man. So they need to open up a spot for that to happen.
Hopefully this means Lovelady DFA and Cuas sent back down.
He was originally drafted by the Cubs in the 4th round in 2016 and made 2 appearances for the Cubs in 2020 and bounced around since then , Texas, Milwaukee, Mets, Seattle .
Has only pitched 25 games in the majors, his career ERA 5.91 looks a lot worse than it is because of a short brutal showing with the Rangers in 2022 , 13 runs in 10.2 innings.
He's looked good so far this season though
AAA 4 innings 3 hits 1 run 6 k's 2 walks
Seattle 11.2 innings 8 hits 4 runs 12 k's 1 walk
Hate to lose Slaughter for a guy like this with such a short run of success, but maybe he's found himself.
Slaughter was likely not going to get much of a chance if any with the Cubs and scouts don't love the guy and he's looked at as one of those AAAA types , but he's sure put of some very good numbers in the Cubs system I hope he gets a chance in Seattle.
The move also opens up more playing time in Iowa for BJ Murray who is a better prospect.
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Post by fine09 on May 14, 2024 9:18:28 GMT -5
Miller is out of options so they will need to add him to the 40 man. So they need to open up a spot for that to happen. Hopefully this means Lovelady DFA and Cuas sent back down. He was originally drafted by the Cubs in the 4th round in 2016 and made 2 appearances for the Cubs in 2020 and bounced around since then , Texas, Milwaukee, Mets, Seattle . Has only pitched 25 games in the majors, his career ERA 5.91 looks a lot worse than it is because of a short brutal showing with the Rangers in 2022 , 13 runs in 10.2 innings. He's looked good so far this season though AAA 4 innings 3 hits 1 run 6 k's 2 walks Seattle 11.2 innings 8 hits 4 runs 12 k's 1 walk Hate to lose Slaughter for a guy like this with such a short run of success, but maybe he's found himself. Slaughter was likely not going to get much of a chance if any with the Cubs and scouts don't love the guy and he's looked at as one of those AAAA types , but he's sure put of some very good numbers in the Cubs system I hope he gets a chance in Seattle. The move also opens up more playing time in Iowa for BJ Murray who is a better prospect. Slaughter had also gone unclaimed through 2 rule 5 drafts so if he kept up this pace he likely wouldn't have made it again. Miller "could" be good for us for a bit which is all we need him for to be worth it & you never know about Cuas, if he can get his control back a bit he really can help us out too. |
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Post by batman66 on May 14, 2024 9:26:12 GMT -5
Miller is out of options so they will need to add him to the 40 man. So they need to open up a spot for that to happen. Hopefully this means Lovelady DFA and Cuas sent back down. He was originally drafted by the Cubs in the 4th round in 2016 and made 2 appearances for the Cubs in 2020 and bounced around since then , Texas, Milwaukee, Mets, Seattle . Has only pitched 25 games in the majors, his career ERA 5.91 looks a lot worse than it is because of a short brutal showing with the Rangers in 2022 , 13 runs in 10.2 innings. He's looked good so far this season though AAA 4 innings 3 hits 1 run 6 k's 2 walks Seattle 11.2 innings 8 hits 4 runs 12 k's 1 walk Hate to lose Slaughter for a guy like this with such a short run of success, but maybe he's found himself. Slaughter was likely not going to get much of a chance if any with the Cubs and scouts don't love the guy and he's looked at as one of those AAAA types , but he's sure put of some very good numbers in the Cubs system I hope he gets a chance in Seattle. The move also opens up more playing time in Iowa for BJ Murray who is a better prospect. Slaughter had also gone unclaimed through 2 rule 5 drafts so if he kept up this pace he likely wouldn't have made it again. Miller "could" be good for us for a bit which is all we need him for to be worth it & you never know about Cuas, if he can get his control back a bit he really can help us out too. <<you never know about Cuas, if he can get his control back a bit he really can help us out too.>> Back ? He never had it 2022 37 innings 24 walks 2023 65 innings 35 walks career 111 innings 113 hits 62 walks |
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Post by TheChico on May 14, 2024 9:49:28 GMT -5
Lovelady was DFA to make room for Miller
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Post by fine09 on May 14, 2024 9:54:47 GMT -5
Slaughter had also gone unclaimed through 2 rule 5 drafts so if he kept up this pace he likely wouldn't have made it again. Miller "could" be good for us for a bit which is all we need him for to be worth it & you never know about Cuas, if he can get his control back a bit he really can help us out too. <<you never know about Cuas, if he can get his control back a bit he really can help us out too.>> Back ? He never had it 2022 37 innings 24 walks 2023 65 innings 35 walks career 111 innings 113 hits 62 walks Damn. Well I meant that one Wednesday last year.. (not really). |
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Post by rvn11 on May 14, 2024 10:07:11 GMT -5
Don't like losing Slaughter, but he wasn't going to get a shot here. At least they made a move to try to fix up the pen. Not sure Miller is the guy, but it's worth a shot.
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Post by trav768 on May 14, 2024 10:50:53 GMT -5
Miller's stats look good. hopefully by putting on a Cubs uniform doesn't ruin him
I'm gonna miss Lovelady. lol
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Post by cfin on May 14, 2024 11:16:31 GMT -5
I'd urge caution before I'd anoint Miller as some type of bullpen savior. A lot of his outings in Seattle were in low-leverage situations. He very well could end up being a DFA candidate by the end of the season.
Having said all of that, I do like the deal. Cubs needed to do something and Slaughter wasn't going any where with the Cubs. Certainly worth a shot. And I certainly hope he becomes a key bullpen piece, not saying he can't. Just I tend to be a bit more cautious with my optimism here.
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Post by batman66 on May 14, 2024 12:53:55 GMT -5
I'd urge caution before I'd anoint Miller as some type of bullpen savior. A lot of his outings in Seattle were in low-leverage situations. He very well could end up being a DFA candidate by the end of the season. Having said all of that, I do like the deal. Cubs needed to do something and Slaughter wasn't going any where with the Cubs. Certainly worth a shot. And I certainly hope he becomes a key bullpen piece, not saying he can't. Just I tend to be a bit more cautious with my optimism here. No savior goggles here , just mentioned his numbers this year are not bad and he's bounced around a lot and it's possible he could be one of those guys who's figured something out. I'd rather give him a look than see more of Lovelady or Cuas. |
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Post by TheChico on May 14, 2024 13:15:24 GMT -5
I'd urge caution before I'd anoint Miller as some type of bullpen savior. A lot of his outings in Seattle were in low-leverage situations. He very well could end up being a DFA candidate by the end of the season. Having said all of that, I do like the deal. Cubs needed to do something and Slaughter wasn't going any where with the Cubs. Certainly worth a shot. And I certainly hope he becomes a key bullpen piece, not saying he can't. Just I tend to be a bit more cautious with my optimism here. Yep! He is an arm, the odds say he is DFA at some point again is high. Not expecting much except maybe catch lightning in the bottle |
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Post by thisbuds4u on May 14, 2024 14:08:15 GMT -5
This trade is eerily similar to the Cuas/ Velazquez trade.
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Post by irishcubfan on May 14, 2024 14:37:42 GMT -5
This trade is eerily similar to the Cuas/ Velazquez trade. Not very good pitcher for Not very good position player? |
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Post by irishcubfan on May 14, 2024 14:39:07 GMT -5
I'd urge caution before I'd anoint Miller as some type of bullpen savior. A lot of his outings in Seattle were in low-leverage situations. He very well could end up being a DFA candidate by the end of the season. Having said all of that, I do like the deal. Cubs needed to do something and Slaughter wasn't going any where with the Cubs. Certainly worth a shot. And I certainly hope he becomes a key bullpen piece, not saying he can't. Just I tend to be a bit more cautious with my optimism here. Yep! He is an arm, the odds say he is DFA at some point again is high. Not expecting much except maybe catch lightning in the bottle Just a better innings filler than current in house candidates. |
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Post by thisbuds4u on May 14, 2024 15:15:01 GMT -5
This trade is eerily similar to the Cuas/ Velazquez trade. Not very good pitcher for Not very good position player? Another "I hope he can get someone out" bullpen arm. Hoyer seems to thrive on them. |
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Post by lajoiesghost on May 14, 2024 16:20:19 GMT -5
I would rather just bring up someone from the minors. I don't see their chances of success being any less than these fringe ML arms who need a fresh start.
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Post by cfin on May 14, 2024 16:48:27 GMT -5
I would rather just bring up someone from the minors. I don't see their chances of success being any less than these fringe ML arms who need a fresh start. I would tend to agree.
This is why I'm more of a fan of just having a ton of optional arms that you can call upon from the bullpen.
But the Cubs have done this for so many years, that they're starting to run out of optional arms.
The Cubs didn't give up anything of any value for Miller, so I'm OK with this move. Slaughter was never going to see MLB time with the Cubs.
But just because the Cubs traded for him shouldn't mean he's never on the potential to be DFA'd list.
You just really can't horde non-optional bullpen arms. If they're performing, then that's great - you definitely want to keep them. But if a non-optional bullpen arm isn't performing, you've got to be willing to let him go even if he finds success some where else. You'll find another bullpen arm to replace him.
This is also why I'm not a fan of spending a ton of money on bullpen arms. Neris is a prime example. He's non-optional. He's not really performing all that well. But you can't cut him because of his salary.
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Post by thisbuds4u on May 14, 2024 18:20:56 GMT -5
I would rather just bring up someone from the minors. I don't see their chances of success being any less than these fringe ML arms who need a fresh start. I would tend to agree.
This is why I'm more of a fan of just having a ton of optional arms that you can call upon from the bullpen.
But the Cubs have done this for so many years, that they're starting to run out of optional arms.
The Cubs didn't give up anything of any value for Miller, so I'm OK with this move. Slaughter was never going to see MLB time with the Cubs.
But just because the Cubs traded for him shouldn't mean he's never on the potential to be DFA'd list.
You just really can't horde non-optional bullpen arms. If they're performing, then that's great - you definitely want to keep them. But if a non-optional bullpen arm isn't performing, you've got to be willing to let him go even if he finds success some where else. You'll find another bullpen arm to replace him.
This is also why I'm not a fan of spending a ton of money on bullpen arms. Neris is a prime example. He's non-optional. He's not really performing all that well. But you can't cut him because of his salary.
If the Cubs were good at developing bullpen arms I could understand not spending money of free agents. BUT THEY'RE NOT. Taking a starting pitcher and using him in the bullpen goes against what is constantly talked about and that is to get to a starting pitcher before he settles in and finds his rhythm. |
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