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Post by malagacubs on Oct 1, 2024 12:59:48 GMT -5
I have been telling you guys for years this rebuild has been bullshit. Tommy got his ring now it's time to do what Jerry Reinsdorf said, "just stay in it until the end and the fans will be happy" and make money hands over fist. Payroll will continue to reduce annually as these big contracts fall off and Tommy will keep making money. He wants desperately to emulate the Braves model and grow stars from within & hit home runs with key acquisitions, which he won't ever do. |
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Oct 1, 2024 13:05:57 GMT -5
Exactly, 90 wins now with the extend postseason pretty much guarantees you a postseason berth. I'm trying to understand the point he was making. Was he trying to say project for 85 wins, build for that, and hope luck gets you the other 5?
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Post by malagacubs on Oct 1, 2024 13:15:42 GMT -5
We're definitely out on Soto or Vlad methinks.
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Post by thisbuds4u on Oct 1, 2024 13:28:58 GMT -5
Damn... they just said Cubs had 57 games without a HR this season, 35% of the season. Record.... 17-40. Fucking OUCH! This is why a slugging star is so important. WOW!! Explains why they were a mid team a bit, if you are going to go 35% of your games without a homer your defense and pitching need to be top of the line.The lack of home runs is not the only issue with the Cubs offense. The Brewers hit 7 more HRs than the Cubs this season and yet won the division by 10 games. When you factor in that the Brewers play, at minimum, half there games indoors the difference is acceptable. In May and June, the Cubs didn't hit. Half the lineup was at or below the Mendoza line. That 17-40 record doesn't say if the Cubs were out-homered in all those games. All we know is they were out-scored. |
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Post by batman66 on Oct 1, 2024 13:31:03 GMT -5
We're definitely out on Soto or Vlad methinks. Out on soto for sure and I'm not upset about it. Yes I want him , but unless they blow away any Yankees offer he's lot leaving NY . So I don't want them to bother spending any time on him like they did with Ohtani last winter . Vlad , if the Jays do decide to trade him I think the Cubs would be very in on him, they supposedly asked about him during the season. I'm not being put off by what he said today , you need to really look at the things he says and not just the surface of them , like at the deadline when he said they won't be adding any players for this season , but might add if they see something that could help beyond and most people on here thought that meant he's selling. Him saying moving young players would have to make sense , to me does not mean he won't make a Vlad trade. I think he'd do it only knowing he can sign him , and I have no problem with that . I don't want them giving up a talent like Caissie for a rental. |
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Post by fine09 on Oct 1, 2024 13:43:51 GMT -5
I have been telling you guys for years this rebuild has been bullshit. Tommy got his ring now it's time to do what Jerry Reinsdorf said, "just stay in it until the end and the fans will be happy" and make money hands over fist. Payroll will continue to reduce annually as these big contracts fall off and Tommy will keep making money. That really isn't the case at all because the Cubs went over the first salary cap this year which pisses me off to no end in a year they had little to no chance of winning big. I realize this was caused by signing Cody but you just have to trade a guy at the deadline & throw in a nice mid. rated prospect so they eat 2 million in salary & your under.. That allows you to blow over all of the tiers in 2025 & 2026 to see if you can grab another title. I know Belli's option decision will determine how this offseason is approached but one way or another they need to spend some serious money because it is time to start dominating this division again. |
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Post by fine09 on Oct 1, 2024 13:49:05 GMT -5
We're definitely out on Soto or Vlad methinks. Out on soto for sure and I'm not upset about it. Yes I want him , but unless they blow away any Yankees offer he's lot leaving NY . So I don't want them to bother spending any time on him like they did with Ohtani last winter . Vlad , if the Jays do decide to trade him I think the Cubs would be very in on him, they supposedly asked about him during the season. I'm not being put off by what he said today , you need to really look at the things he says and not just the surface of them , like at the deadline when he said they won't be adding any players for this season , but might add if they see something that could help beyond and most people on here thought that meant he's selling. Him saying moving young players would have to make sense , to me does not mean he won't make a Vlad trade. I think he'd do it only knowing he can sign him , and I have no problem with that . I don't want them giving up a talent like Caissie for a rental. The only way that Vlad would agree to a "sign-and-trade" deal with the Cubs is if they gave him what ever number that he asks for - which will never happen with the Cubs or 28 of the other teams out there. Vlad is going to free agency next year because "IF" he has another great year he will be the "Juan Soto" of next year and will get paid handsomely.. |
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Post by Clark Street on Oct 1, 2024 14:00:09 GMT -5
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Post by cfin on Oct 1, 2024 14:31:55 GMT -5
I can't say this really changed much for me. I didn't have confidence with Hoyer before this interview. After this interview I still don't have confidence in Hoyer.
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Post by TheChico on Oct 1, 2024 14:39:20 GMT -5
I can't say this really changed much for me. I didn't have confidence with Hoyer before this interview. After this interview I still don't have confidence in Hoyer. Same! |
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Post by bryzzobrist on Oct 1, 2024 14:42:58 GMT -5
This writer is projecting a lot of the criticism. What Jed is saying matches what we've been hearing for a while now. It doesn't quite infuriate me. It's frustrating, but it's also hard to agree that they're not working diligently and (mostly) intelligently to create a sustainable winner. We couldn't signed all sorts of under-performers into mega deals by this point and a lot of those players would have done nothing but hold us back. We have to build a winner without making short-sighted decisions, and it's taking a while, but I don't disagree with the process. Being infuriated that Jed is not committing to signing big FA's this offseason (which hasn't even started) should not be a shock to anyone.
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Post by kfidd on Oct 1, 2024 14:43:18 GMT -5
I’m not a fan of our front office but I don’t see anything jarring here about what was stated either. These press conferences are a lot of show and fluff without any real substance. Anyone thinking they would come out and lay all their cards on the table about actual plans or name specific players, payroll figures, etc, well I don’t know what to tell you.
Punt Jed. Get rid of him. But there’s nothing for me to get up and arms with over what was shared today. Just a bunch of blah blah yadda blah like these always are.
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Post by batman66 on Oct 1, 2024 14:45:14 GMT -5
Jed on star players and if one is on the roster.... Cody was an MVP guys last year. ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble..... most of the stars in the postseason had career years WTF ahahahaha Again, referencing 2nd half again as guys who were stars.... Thinks the Cubs have a couple of "guys who can do that". "A lot of guys on playoff teams had years over their projections"..... he's delusional. nice Cliffnotes version of what he said with your usual twist!. When he was asked about it , he said a LOT more than that and he ended it talking about the 5 win players and saying they did not have that this year and they need to get it , and they might already have some of those guys if they had better seasons, but he was reiterating they did not have it in 2024 where he carried the team like they did with Cody in 2023 and then he said , so you have to really look at it and he ended it by saying "how do you get it , it might be external , it might be internal" . I guess you missed the part that they might have to get it "externally" ? PLEASE people actually watch the conference or full video clips because you won't get the real aspect of what he said unless you see him say it and it's certainly not going to be from reading an interpretation on here. |
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Post by irishcubfan on Oct 1, 2024 14:45:35 GMT -5
It is much easier to run a middle of the pact team versus a true contender. Can "attempt" to sign Ohtani, Soto, Burnes, and settle for middle of the road while using Wrigley as the true seller knowing you can have fan attendance at 2.9 million and above with an 82-86 win team. In the playoff/end of the season tournament but never really in it.
Ricketts family are printing money off of loyal Cubs fans and the ballpark and they have the perfect front office in Hoyer and Hawkins to accomplish financial goals.
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Post by batman66 on Oct 1, 2024 14:50:27 GMT -5
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Oct 1, 2024 14:50:38 GMT -5
Jed on star players and if one is on the roster.... Cody was an MVP guys last year. ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble..... most of the stars in the postseason had career years WTF ahahahaha Again, referencing 2nd half again as guys who were stars.... Thinks the Cubs have a couple of "guys who can do that". "A lot of guys on playoff teams had years over their projections"..... he's delusional. nice Cliffnotes version of what he said with your usual twist!. When he was asked about it , he said a LOT more than that and he ended it talking about the 5 win players and saying they did not have that this year and they need to get it , and they might already have some of those guys if they had better seasons, but he was reiterating they did not have it in 2024 where he carried the team like they did with Cody in 2023 and then he said , so you have to really look at it and he ended it by saying "how do you get it , it might be external , it might be internal" . I guess you missed the part that they might have to get it "externally" ? PLEASE people actually watch the conference or full video clips because you won't get the real aspect of what he said unless you see him say it and it's certainly not going to be from reading an interpretation on here. I know exactly what he said... so does the local media. Got in defense mode like always... this is a mid team and will be again in 2025. |
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Oct 1, 2024 14:51:45 GMT -5
It is much easier to run a middle of the pact team versus a true contender. Can "attempt" to sign Ohtani, Soto, Burnes, and settle for middle of the road while using Wrigley as the true seller knowing you can have fan attendance at 2.9 million and above with an 82-86 win team. In the playoff/end of the season tournament but never really in it. Ricketts family are printing money off of loyal Cubs fans and the ballpark and they have the perfect front office in Hoyer and Hawkins to accomplish financial goals. Tommy is going to do exactly when Jerry Reindsdorf said. As an owner, it makes sense. For fans, we'll likely never see a WS again unless they get lucky. |
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Post by batman66 on Oct 1, 2024 14:53:08 GMT -5
nice Cliffnotes version of what he said with your usual twist!. When he was asked about it , he said a LOT more than that and he ended it talking about the 5 win players and saying they did not have that this year and they need to get it , and they might already have some of those guys if they had better seasons, but he was reiterating they did not have it in 2024 where he carried the team like they did with Cody in 2023 and then he said , so you have to really look at it and he ended it by saying "how do you get it , it might be external , it might be internal" . I guess you missed the part that they might have to get it "externally" ? PLEASE people actually watch the conference or full video clips because you won't get the real aspect of what he said unless you see him say it and it's certainly not going to be from reading an interpretation on here. I know exactly what he said... so does the local media. Got in defense mode like always... this is a mid team and will be again in 2025. Maybe we all listen to what we want to hear. You and the local media made zero mention of him saying it might be external regarding getting a 5 win player, you guys stopped listening when he was saying they might have one internally . |
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Oct 1, 2024 14:53:15 GMT -5
No, he knows what he said. He thinks those players are within. He mentioned it numerous times saying guys on the roster need to play above expectations. If he meant that then why pass on Chapman? He was and is again a 5 win player. Jed knows what he's doing. He loves fans like you. |
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Oct 1, 2024 14:54:36 GMT -5
I know exactly what he said... so does the local media. Got in defense mode like always... this is a mid team and will be again in 2025. Maybe we all listen to what we want to hear. You and the local media made zero mention of him saying it might be external regarding getting a 5 win player, you guys stopped listening when he was saying they might have one. Might be external is hyperbol... he stressed over and over again guys needing to play above expectations. He needs guys to have career years to win 90 games. What a joke. |
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