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Post by section8max on Aug 2, 2020 20:05:20 GMT -5
If a handful of players test positive the whole squad is out even after several days if negative testing?
Why have an expanded roster?
Why not split the squad away from each other?
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Post by jpepitone on Aug 2, 2020 20:15:36 GMT -5
Those are all good questions, and I don’t have an answer.
It’s 2020, and logic and common sense no longer apply.
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Post by rvn11 on Aug 2, 2020 20:24:00 GMT -5
The word from those “in the know” was that there were more positive tests today, not sure that’s been officially released yet or not, or how many. Sounds kind of like a Marlins situation in the making, starting with one, then a couple, then more.
I think MLB has learned enough from this early on that it’s not quite as clean and simple as subbing in guys from the squad to fill in. Had they followed their own rules they would have played games already with players that would go on to test positive later, expanding the spread.
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Post by skokiejoe on Aug 2, 2020 21:46:43 GMT -5
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Aug 2, 2020 21:58:31 GMT -5
The taxi squad thing is confusing to me. I was under the assumption of guys tested positive they’d be shuffled out for taxi guys. Instead, teams are getting locked down and games are being postponed 🤷🏼♂️
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Post by GoCubsGo4ever on Aug 2, 2020 23:03:10 GMT -5
The taxi squad thing is confusing to me. I was under the assumption of guys tested positive they’d be shuffled out for taxi guys. Instead, teams are getting locked down and games are being postponed 🤷🏼♂️ The taxi squad is like the minor leagues, and those players are supposed to be the replacements for the players on IL or isolation due to COVID positive. But the problem with the Cards is probably different. They are still waiting for a few tests that are inconclusive. The key is to make sure that those who play are not exposed, and my guess is that these players with pending results have been in touch with a significant amount of other players after they were last tested so that they are not sure who are safe to play.
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Post by rvn11 on Aug 3, 2020 5:50:31 GMT -5
The taxi squad thing is confusing to me. I was under the assumption of guys tested positive they’d be shuffled out for taxi guys. Instead, teams are getting locked down and games are being postponed 🤷🏼♂️ I think they’re finding as they go that it’s not as simple as it being limited to just one person or a few people. Had the marlins done the taxi squad route they’d have been on the field with guys that would eventually test positive but not at the time of game. That they held out the Phillies without any positives tells me they’re realizing this is more contagious than they thought.
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Post by tehmpus on Aug 3, 2020 6:31:57 GMT -5
Those are all good questions, and I don’t have an answer. It’s 2020, and logic and common sense no longer apply. They're probably just out for a few games in order to re-test and re-verify who's healthy before deciding what to do next. If it's just a few players, they will probably quarenteen and continue to play with healthy players. If it's too many players, we'll have a Marlins situation where the entire team shuts down for a couple weeks.
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Post by batman66 on Aug 3, 2020 6:51:34 GMT -5
The delays in playing and the teams being put on "pause" are not because of lack of players, it is about waiting on test results and being sure more members are not testing positive.
In the Marlins case it became a legit outbreak to the point they actually had to scramble to collect more players as well.
In STL case so far they should just be able to shuffle in players off the taxi but they need to determine if they have a few cases or a legit outbreak and it seems the protocal to re activate paused teams are at least 2 days in a row of no new cases.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Aug 3, 2020 8:11:20 GMT -5
It was more a rhetorical question. Prior to season starting they peddled the taxi squad as replacements for COVID positive tested players. This is literally NOT happening. Teams are being shut down if they have positive tests. I'm not saying it's the wrong thing to do, I'm just saying, that's not what was said prior to the start of the season. Granted, the Marlins were an extreme case, but again, that was discussed prior to the season starting.
"For the 2020 season, each team will get a three-player taxi squad for road trips. This will help give the teams quick options should a player get injured or test positive for COVID-19. Those players are from the original 60-player pool implemented by each team."
"Looming largest is the idea and role of the taxi squads. These squads weren’t put together because the owners and players are worried about regular injuries. If that was all they were worried about then MLB simply could bring back some semblance of a Minor League Baseball season. Rather, both sides are concerned about an outbreak of COVID-19. The very real concern shared by both the owners and players is that players are going to come down with the virus and head to the injured list. The taxi squads exist solely to reinforce teams that suffer COVID-19 cases."
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Post by batman66 on Aug 3, 2020 14:49:12 GMT -5
Right, if we were seeing reports of 1 member testing positive then I think they progress as planned and just keep playing and dig into the taxi squad. But we are seeing with Marlins and STL multiples pop up so that puts the scenario from perhaps an isolated case to potential outbreak and you have to pause everything until you finally get back to back all negatives.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Aug 3, 2020 14:50:11 GMT -5
Field Of Dreams game cancelled.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Aug 3, 2020 14:53:35 GMT -5
Here it is.... 7 players and 6 staff memebers for Cards have COVID. Entire Tigers series is postponed. Cubs series will likely be postponed as well.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on Aug 3, 2020 15:02:00 GMT -5
The Marlins haven't even played yet, but the Cubs and Cards will resume Friday per MLB. How the fuck is that going to happen? Excuse my language, I'm pissed at the Cards, they should forfeit games IMO
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Post by skokiejoe on Aug 3, 2020 15:12:11 GMT -5
The Marlins haven't even played yet, but the Cubs and Cards will resume Friday per MLB. How the fuck is that going to happen? Excuse my language, I'm pissed at the Cards, they should forfeit games IMO Marlins are playing tomorrow.
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Post by skokiejoe on Aug 3, 2020 15:13:49 GMT -5
Here it is.... 7 players and 6 staff memebers for Cards have COVID. Entire Tigers series is postponed. Cubs series will likely be postponed as well. The problem is more players have been exposed but are testing negative now. They might be positive tomorrow or the next day.
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Post by fine09 on Aug 3, 2020 15:18:35 GMT -5
The Marlins haven't even played yet, but the Cubs and Cards will resume Friday per MLB. How the fuck is that going to happen? Excuse my language, I'm pissed at the Cards, they should forfeit games IMO Between now & Friday the "Clean" Cardinal players will be known & only those players plus guys from the alternate 30 site will take the place of the infected & others in protocol against the Cubs. Not to really piss you off but there were rumblings over the weekend where they were discussing the possibility of not making up the games & just using "winning percentage" which I will call BS instantly due to the Cardinals not having to play the pretty good Brewers team..
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Post by batman66 on Aug 3, 2020 15:20:18 GMT -5
They are going to have to lay down the law and threaten forfeitures if it is deemed positives are resulting from a clear lapse in following protocal and it can be proven just for the sake to get the point across that teams need to be taking this seriously from now on.
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Post by GoCubsGo4ever on Aug 3, 2020 15:21:11 GMT -5
Here it is.... 7 players and 6 staff memebers for Cards have COVID. Entire Tigers series is postponed. Cubs series will likely be postponed as well. 5 of the 13 infected are asymptomatic, per Mozeliak.
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Post by rvn11 on Aug 3, 2020 15:23:37 GMT -5
The Marlins haven't even played yet, but the Cubs and Cards will resume Friday per MLB. How the fuck is that going to happen? Excuse my language, I'm pissed at the Cards, they should forfeit games IMO I think the Marlins are a bit of an extreme case, as with their financials already they didn't really stockpile many MLB worthy players as part of their alternate squad. They stocked it primarily with their prospects to give them some experience in light of no minor league games this season, and thus don't want to bring them up and start their time clock. That's why in the past week or two they've picked up a handful of MLB ready guys that were cast off elsewhere. Additionally I'm not sure the implications on their 40 man to bring up enough guys just to fill a 30 man roster.
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