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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 7:40:26 GMT -5
Rosenthal:
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Post by skokiejoe on May 10, 2020 21:30:29 GMT -5
Another source has confirmed proposal to the players on Tuesday. DH will be used for all games
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Post by symposiumx on May 10, 2020 21:48:42 GMT -5
Another source has confirmed proposal to the players on Tuesday. DH will be used for all games Schwarber as DH? Baseball feels so long ago, that I would be surprised if Bryant’s kid is now in the majors.
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Post by patriot544 on May 10, 2020 23:52:00 GMT -5
I’m at the point where right now I really only care about baseball. I’m sorry but I miss sports. I say let’s come up with a plan and if players say no they can choose to not play and let’s move on. I know it’s selfish but I need something to watch. Lol
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Post by ddevonb on May 11, 2020 10:32:03 GMT -5
I’m at the point where right now I really only care about baseball. I’m sorry but I miss sports. I say let’s come up with a plan and if players say no they can choose to not play and let’s move on. I know it’s selfish but I need something to watch. Lol No, it's not selfish. Baseball is no different that most businesses who have to figure how to get back to business. That means they have to do it differently and some will not be able to participate. As one of the people as risk, I have been given the information that I need to protect myself so I don't need everyone else to stop living to protect me. I just decide not to do some of the things I like to do. It is the same with MLB players and staff. If they have underlying health conditions or someone in their family does, they should sit it out and let the others play. The same is true with management. Maddon has a new job, but if he doesn't think he is safe, the bench coach takes over for the season. No matter what they do, it will not be normal... but it will still be baseball and still provide the function that it normally does for fans. While I would be disappointed if a star player decided not to play, I still doesn't keep everyone else from playing.
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Post by ddevonb on May 11, 2020 10:35:55 GMT -5
I’m at the point where right now I really only care about baseball. I’m sorry but I miss sports. I say let’s come up with a plan and if players say no they can choose to not play and let’s move on. I know it’s selfish but I need something to watch. Lol No, it's not selfish. Baseball is no different that most businesses who have to figure how to get back to business. That means they have to do it differently and some will not be able to participate. As one of the people as risk, I have been given the information that I need to protect myself so I don't need everyone else to stop living to protect me. I just decide not to do some of the things I like to do. It is the same with MLB players and staff. If they have underlying health conditions or someone in their family does, they should sit it out and let the others play. The same is true with management. Maddon has a new job, but if he doesn't think he is safe, the bench coach takes over for the season. No matter what they do, it will not be normal... but it will still be baseball and still provide the function that it normally does for fans. While I would be disappointed if a star player decided not to play, I still doesn't keep everyone else from playing. People do need activities like sports. They have great value to our nation. So many people are going through struggles right now, but without the outlet of sports, it is so much worse. Sports are good for the morale of our nation.
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Post by rvn11 on May 11, 2020 10:46:54 GMT -5
Another source has confirmed proposal to the players on Tuesday. DH will be used for all games I like that they'll do that. 2020 is the perfect opportunity to experiment with this. I still am preferential to the NL way of things, but there's no denying this is on their doorstep at some point in the future. Might as well use a shortened and already weird season to see how it would work and/or transition to it.
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Post by skokiejoe on May 11, 2020 11:19:48 GMT -5
More info 82 games season 6 games(3H 3R) against each of the AL Central team for a total of 30 games 13 games against each team in the division for a total of 52 games.
Start July 1st or 2nd Regular season would end September 27th Playoffs September 29th thru November 1st DH for all games.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on May 11, 2020 12:19:35 GMT -5
More info 82 games season 6 games(3H 3R) against each of the AL Central team for a total of 30 games 13 games against each team in the division for a total of 52 games. Start July 1st or 2nd Regular season would end September 27th Playoffs September 29th thru November 1st DH for all games. The key is, will players accept the reported proposal to share revenue versus getting full prorated salaries. That might be a tough sell to players who feel they're taking all the risks with COVID19 still active.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on May 11, 2020 12:19:48 GMT -5
2021 WBC has been cancelled.
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Post by TheChico on May 11, 2020 12:39:32 GMT -5
More info 82 games season 6 games(3H 3R) against each of the AL Central team for a total of 30 games 13 games against each team in the division for a total of 52 games. Start July 1st or 2nd Regular season would end September 27th Playoffs September 29th thru November 1st DH for all games. The key is, will players accept the reported proposal to share revenue versus getting full prorated salaries. That might be a tough sell to players who feel they're taking all the risks with COVID19 still active. IT would be a 52/48 owner/player split which is a reasonable starting ground by MLB you can build on you would think. The union needs to be careful, because if they don't budge at all on the salaries, then the owners will just find another way to recoup the cost, like free agency, arbriration and etc. down the road.
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Post by Returnofstevefitz on May 11, 2020 12:42:29 GMT -5
The key is, will players accept the reported proposal to share revenue versus getting full prorated salaries. That might be a tough sell to players who feel they're taking all the risks with COVID19 still active. IT would be a 52/48 owner/player split which is a reasonable starting ground by MLB. The union needs to be careful, because if they don't budge at all on the salaries, then the owners will just find another way to recoup the cost, like free agency, arbriration and etc. What are those dollars? There won't be any fans in the stands and how do those dollars split between all players? Is a 30 million AAV player getting more, the same or less? Or a 5 million AAV player. Players are the one's feeling they're taking all the risks and from what I read they don't want to give up any of their salary dollars.
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Post by TheChico on May 11, 2020 12:52:02 GMT -5
IT would be a 52/48 owner/player split which is a reasonable starting ground by MLB. The union needs to be careful, because if they don't budge at all on the salaries, then the owners will just find another way to recoup the cost, like free agency, arbriration and etc. What are those dollars? There won't be any fans in the stands and how do those dollars split between all players? Is a 30 million AAV player getting more, the same or less? Or a 5 million AAV player. Players are the one's feeling they're taking all the risks and from what I read they don't want to give up any of their salary dollars. Owners are going to have to open their books you would think so the players get an understanding of the revenue they will receive. I totally get where the players are coming from and make a great point, but the owners are losing a ton of money and to even get the season going, there is going to be extra cost on the owners, like testing, hiring additional staff for the testing and etc. Also I see MLB following the NBA model on how to split the revenue and how they have their salary structure. I don't know any other way you can do it. Anyhow, I think the final solution will be that the players do take a 2020 paycut but the amount being cut gets deferred to a later date to be paid out.
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Post by threeandone on May 11, 2020 13:10:23 GMT -5
I’m at the point where right now I really only care about baseball. I’m sorry but I miss sports. I say let’s come up with a plan and if players say no they can choose to not play and let’s move on. I know it’s selfish but I need something to watch. Lol For me, it hasn't been so bad. A lot better than I thought it would be, a month and a half and I haven't missed it so much that I have to have it. There are a lot of good books to read (more than can ever be read) and a lot of great music out there. I do wish they would come up with a plan or forget about it though. Probably have to start no later than in July to make it worthwhile though.
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Post by skokiejoe on May 11, 2020 13:30:32 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal@Ken_Rosenthal MLB owners have approved a proposal for the 2020 season to present to the players’ union, source tells The Athletic. Meeting expected between union and league tomorrow.
Enrique Rojas/ESPN @enrique_Rojas1 Source to ESPN Deportes: World Baseball Classic will not be played in 2021
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Post by TheChico on May 11, 2020 14:03:22 GMT -5
Per Rosenthal, the players union is expected to sit down and discuss it tomorrow, but revenue sharing idea is a "Nonstarter" in negotiation which is not surprising.
The Proposal by MLB is more to get the ball rolling more than anything, they will get it worked out.
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Post by TheChico on May 11, 2020 14:22:35 GMT -5
WBC is pushed back to 2023
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 14:34:47 GMT -5
Per Rosenthal, the players union is expected to sit down and discuss it tomorrow, but revenue sharing idea is a "Nonstarter" in negotiation which is not surprising. The Proposal by MLB is more to get the ball rolling more than anything, they will get it worked out. Anything CBA related tends to be really difficult but the players know they are going to have to be flexible. These are uncharted waters.
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Post by TheChico on May 11, 2020 16:09:04 GMT -5
Revenue split would be 50/50 between the players and owners and if the players make more than their salary in 2020 then they will have to pay the difference back in 2021. Yikes!
That is not going to fly, this is totally going to get ugly before it gets better.
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Post by section8max on May 11, 2020 16:26:44 GMT -5
More info 82 games season 6 games(3H 3R) against each of the AL Central team for a total of 30 games 13 games against each team in the division for a total of 52 games. Start July 1st or 2nd Regular season would end September 27th Playoffs September 29th thru November 1st DH for all games. The key is, will players accept the reported proposal to share revenue versus getting full prorated salaries. That might be a tough sell to players who feel they're taking all the risks with COVID19 still active. What's their alternative, not getting paid for 2020?
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